[Chaturamnaya] [Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[Ravi Kiran]

Namaste Bhaskarji

Just some thoughts on svarUpa jnAna below..

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:55 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Ravi Kiran prabhuji
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> Hare Krishna
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> I must say here I am only sharing my thoughts based on the traditional
> belief (or should  I say most popular belief) that advocates jnAni-s deha
> dhAsraNa (not ofcourse from the ajnAnis’ point of view) his avidyA lesha
> like digbhrAnti, his prArabdha karma, his rAga dvesha etc.  Infact I have
> my own reservations with regard to all this  which are not so tenable to
> the most of the advaitins J Lot of things has been discussed with regard
> to jnAni’s BMI and his rAga-dvesha but in vain J While on the subject,
> br.up somewhere says, when all the desires residing in one’s heart have
> been got rid of, then the mortal becomes immortal and brahman here in this
> life.  Just as the cast-off slough of a snake would lie lifeless in an
> ant-hill, so also does the body of the enlightened person lie there and he
> is NOW BODILESS (ashareeri) the prANa, brahman alone, the light of pure
> consciousness alone.  But statements like this has comfortably tagged to
> inert state like nirvikalpa samAdhi to get the verbatim meaning of
> bhAshyakAra.  Whereas it is saying the intrinsic nature of ashareeratvaM is
> revealed as soon as svarUpa jnana dawns.
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Will it not call for steadying that svarUpa jnAna  which is illumined
without any further samshaya or viparyaya?

  And the same Upanishad subsequently says the person who know HIM directly
> in this manner desiring what??
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There is a reference in Brih. upanishad regarding YAGYavalkya taking
to pravrajyA
(Vidvat)  for steadiness in jnAna ?

Thanks


> And for the fulfillment of whose desire?? Clearly denying the rAga-dvesha
> in the paripUrNa jnAni, but in the name of avidyA lesha, prArabdha karma,
> what we are seeing today is even jnAni also not free from rAga-dvesha but
> at the same time justification like he is not going to  identify with it
> etc.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> bhaskar
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> pranams Sri Bhaskar ji
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> **  there is no doubt that jnAni's svapna vishaya too prApanchika. But
> bhAshyakAra clarifies that jnAni clearly knows that none of these states is
> in him. Ofcourse **  you would agree that all the three states are only
> features (deha dharma) of the body and the jnAni too who due to his
> prArabdha continue to have
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> ** these functions even after samyak jnana.
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> Yes, as mentioned in chandogya - तस्य तावदेव चिरं यावन्न विमोक्ष्येऽथ
> सम्पत्स्य इति    ( tasya tAvadeva chiram…there is delay only till such
> time the body falls)
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> ** So, jnAni's dream is comparatively more matured and sanctified  than
> that of ajnAni because of his svarUpa jnana  :-)
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> I see  :-)
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> Thanks
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