Three schools of thought

Shashikanth Hosur shashi at KBSSUN1.TAMU.EDU
Mon Nov 25 09:17:09 CST 1996

On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Madhava Kumar Turumella wrote:

=>> >        No Advaita if it is a state is a as false as any other state.
=>> >Advaita is not a state.  It is beyond the states.
=>> I think for the sake of explanation I have called it as a state.  How do
=>> I presumedly explain that which I haven't experienced!!! that which I have
=>> only heard of but couldn't reach!!! Shall I call it a state or shall I
=>> call it something beyond everything!!!!!
=>> Hope you understand me...
=>> >        So u mean all the great souls like Annamayya, Tagaraju and all
=>> >did not know God.
=>> Do you think so!  Okay.. let me go into further into explanation.
=>> I suggest, why don't you contemplate on Sri Tyagaraja and ask that great
=>> master himself whether he realised or not!  I am sure when you have
=>> unshattered faith in yourself that you can speak to the great saints
=>> you shall be answered. Tat sat....
=>> >        Sri ramakrishna Paramahamsa himself used to state that vishista
=>> >dwaita and dwaita schools are also correct.
=>> Remember bhagawatgeeta!  "jOshayEt sarva karmANi vidvAn yuktaH samacaran"
=>> (loose translation) The wise and discriminate should always overlook all
=>> the deeds, no matter what ever they are".  It does not matter whether it is
=>> vishistadwaita or dvaita.  One should always look at his own path and
=>> practice continuously.  Do not look at others, whether they are in the
=>> right path or not.  They will come to the right path if their's was wrong.
=>> Swamy Chinmayananda says "In advaita to travel from alone to the alone
=>> all alone"!!
=>> >        Then Why did Sri Ramanuja and Sri Madhava teach against some of the
=>> >advaitic practises.  U answer is not clear.
=>> I hope you can answer yourself when you think why they taught against some
=>> of the advaitic practices.
=>> >        It also means that they were not teaching something which they
=>> >proclaimed as highest truth.  So that means they were lying ..
=>> You said that!!!! Listen, If you show a black cloth and ask me whether
=>> it is in white color, I could immidetly say it is in black.  Because
=>> I know the difference between white and black.  I can say, whether they
=>> lying or not, only when I realise the truth.  You have to wait till then :)
        Thats good.  Then u should not comment upon the validity or
not validity till that time.  It was u who raised the question of
other paths are valid.
I was only trying to figuring on what basis u told it.
>From the earlier part of the reply u said that u did not know and were not
realized.  Then u cannot simply speak about the validity of other paths.
        If u believe in the path of advaita then adhere to it and practise
I believe every path is as valid as any other path.  There are saints in
each path.  In it our narrow mindeness that makes us say this is vaild or not
valid.  Sri Ramanujacharya and Sri Madhvacharya were great souls as was
Sri Shankaracharya.
        It is correct if u say that U have much faith in advaitic teachings
as u are more inclined to it.  But u cannot speak or comment on other
paths if u are not aware of it.
        Quoting Bhagavatgeeta and other upanishads are useless unless if
undestand the inner meaning of each and every word.
        U said that if I showed u cloth u can say wheather it is black or white
U might me color blind too.  So what may appear black to u need not be black.
U should grasp that.
        U mentioned that u should look ones own path.  Good thats correct.
Then why comment other paths. U do not have a slightest insight insight into
        I feel that it is the same reason for which Sri Sankaracharya
went against Buddhism and Jainism.

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