brickmar at EARTHCOM.NET
Fri Jul 18 13:41:29 CDT 1997
>>But at least it is consistent with Papaji's (and Baleksekar's for that
>>matter) belief in the non-reality of free will. It would be nice if
>Similarly note the consistency between:
>1. the heaven's gate cult's belief and the members castrating and
>2. Idi Amin's voice telling that it was OK to eat human beings and
>people finding heads in his fridge.
>3. Hitler believing that Jews were the cause of all evil and sending
>millions of them to the gas chamber
>et etc etc.
Well that's why I said "at least". None of the above people you mentioned
believed in the non-reality of free will as far as I am aware. Consistency
in the context I have given is neutral with respect to the behavior being
judged. As is both the reality and the non-reality of free will. All
belief in the non-reality of free does is remove vegeance as a response to
bad behavior. The criminal code can stay pretty much intact.
>So why don't you join...a Neo-Nazi group?
At this very moment I almost feel that I have.
>Consistency between belief and action is hardly the sole hallmark to
Well, like I said, I never claimed it was.
>Imagine this defence being used in court. "My Lord, I
>truly believed I had to rob this store". "Hey there is consistency, you
>are acquitted". Duh!
I can't imagine this. I don't even understand it. You are not up to your
usual standard in making a point here. Please try again.
>PS: Handwaving nonsense like "everything happens spontaneously in
>consciousness" and the usual drivel spouted by some so called gurus is
>probably a surefire way of avoiding frauds. Some may be well
>intentioned, but most probably frauds nevertheless.
Happening is an illusion, yes? That there is a self or agent making things
happen is a bigger illusion than that everything is happening
spontaneously. But this brings us back to square one.
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