Snake in the Rope

Ravi msr at COMCO.COM
Fri Mar 12 18:41:07 CST 1999

Namaste and pranams
Sri Jaladhariji send following to the list:

On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Ashish Chandra wrote:

 We must remember that Swami Vivekananda had attempted to find out from a
 host of men and preachers as to whether they had seen God. It was only in
 Ramakrishna Paramhansa, the epitome of a Guru, that he found his answer. Do
 any of us know such a Guru in this day and age ?

Jaladhariji wrote:-
Oddly enough I didn't find it very hard to find people who knew God.  But
>then again I was looking for people who had seen Hindu Gods whereas
>Vivekananda was looking for a 19th century liberal protestant God which
>may be a bit harder to come by.

>Honestly, I don't know how he got this reputation for being some kind of
>expert on Vedanta.  He was a marginal figure, not very well-versed in the
>subject.  Whatever utility he has today is in explaining Vedanta to
>outsiders and even there I think you can do much better.
>No the problem these days is not a lack of information or guides, but a
>lack of people who'll _do_ anything with these resources.

>Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at>

Our humble contribution to such masterful posting: -

We think the whole list is surely amazed and should applaud the masterful
analysis Sri Jaladharji has shown in explaining away Sri Ramakrishna and
Swami Vivekananda.
Why do we waste time with such marginal characters? We have such masterful
exponents of Adviata on the list. The list members may wonder if we should
perhaps even bother with Sri Shankara - he goes so far back in History!
Maybe we should request Sri Jaladharji to be our guide. He has assured us
there is no lack of guides he is just bothered that there are not enough

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