Karma

[Vaidya Sundaram]

--- Shrinivas Gadkari <sgadkari2001 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Say person X while interacting with person Y, performs an action A.
> Further suppose that Y perceives the action A negatively. What you
> ask is: "What effect, this action A will have on the future
> experiences
> of X ?". (Karma is the collective effect of past thoughts and actions
> on the future experiences of the concerned person).

 The question is independent of perceptions - so, I think the
fundamental premise you are making here is not correct.

> It basically depends on how X perceives the action.
> On the state of mind of X.

 No it does not. Again, perceptions do not matter. Example: A man in
some kind of painfull sickness may want to die. Another cannot just
kill him even out of compassion. There is no question of even motive.
It is wrong. Period.

> How Y perceives A cannot affect, the karma of X. However
> if the perception of Y, influences the perception of X, then in that
> case the fact that Y perceived the action negatively will accrue as
> a negative karma for X.

 Forgive me for asking this so plainly - but where do you get this kind
of idea from - ?? I mean, I have never seen anywhere such an
extrapolation ...!!

 the measure of right and wrong cannot and does not depend on
perceptions and reactions and influences - it is definitely not
relative ... for every yuga, there is an "absolute" yardstick to
measure against - these yard sticks are the dharma shastras and
smritis. The smritis tell us what is right and what is worng and when
these things are true. If you have a doubt, look at the avenues
available in the dharma shastras itself for resolution ... For
reference, look at the archives on this matter, and you will find quite
a few referenes ... look for topics on svadharma.

> The amount of negative karma accrued is
> related to the amount of influence of Y on X's perception. If X
> executes the act A, while being established in the Self, there
> is no possibility of accruing negative karma, irrespective of how
> Y might perceive the act A.
> This is in a sense the gist of Gita.

 What!!!??? I mean, - what are you trying to say?? I don't understand
at all how you can say this ...!!  - look at your equation here -

> How Y perceives A cannot affect, the karma of X. However
> if the perception of Y, influences the perception of X, then in that
> case the fact that Y perceived the action negatively will accrue as
> a negative karma for X.

let us say X is Arjuna - Y is Duryodhana - the act A is killing him. Y
perceived that X doing A to him is bad - and buy your statement above
that has negative karma for X ?? You mean, Arujuna killing Duryodhana
is bad for Arjuna because Duryodhana takes it negatively ... ????
Please make sense!! This is defenitely not in THE Gita!

bhava shankara desikame shanraNam
Vaidya.


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