Keeping Shikha [was Re: Sannyasins & cutting of the hair?]

[Srikrishna Ghadiyaram]

Hari Om !!

Who says I have a problem with somebody's life style.
I addressed an issue which was raised on the list, as
I deemed it fit. If you personally, do not like it,
(it's your problem !!),  please ignore.

Om Namo Narayanaya !!

Srikrishna


--- K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir at NCS.COM.SG> wrote:
> Namaste Srikrishnaji
>
> Please keep your personal attacks out of this list.
> If you have a problem
> with Jagannathji's lifestyle it's your problem.
> Thank you.
>
> Kathi
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Srikrishna Ghadiyaram
> [SMTP:srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:24 PM
> > To:   ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
> > Subject:      Re: Keeping Shikha [was Re:
> Sannyasins & cutting of the
> > hair?]
> >
> > Hari Om !!
> >
> > I had to be harsh to point your wrong thinking.
> >
> > --- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 at YAHOO.COM>
> wrote:
> > > --- Srikrishna Ghadiyaram
> > > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > Hari Om !!
> > > >
> > > > What do you call this fallacy !!
> > > >
> > > > The above statements are not only EGOTIC, but
> also
> > > > ARROGANT.
> > >
> > > I am neither Srikrishnaji. These are of course
> my
> > > views on the subject. In my childhood days I was
> > > both
> > > deeply religious and also an atheist.
> >
> > What do you call the above statements ??? Are they
> > words of your EGO or your Atman ??? (if it speaks
> !!)
> > Any thing that you say, 'I am this , I am that' is
> all
> > your EGO. You were  just explaining, "about a
> Sanyasi,
> > thinking of his sanyasihood". similarly, you have
> your
> > own impressions of your religioushood, atheisthood
> > etc. You are not beyond "I am this" views. When
> this
> > is strong and not open minded, a stronger word is
> > EGOTIC, and arrogant.
> >
> > You can not be religious by thowing away the same
> > religious tenets. I sympathise, your health
> related
> > problems. Probably, it was because of that, that
> your
> > parents wanted to make sure you were on a higher
> > spiritual and religious life and stop  worrying
> about
> > 'physical problems' only.
> >
> >
> > > Here was a child who was raring to go the
> > > spiritual way but had to face obstructions every
> > > inch
> > > of the path.
> > >
> >
> > Because you had conflict (where in you were
> inclined
> > to spiritualism) you chose not to have a sikha or
> wear
> > the Holy thread !!  Does it sound sensible, at
> least
> > now ?? Do you need to correct yourself atleast, if
> you
> > agree that your childhood actions were wrong and
> > misplaced ?
> >
> >
> > > > Consider the otherside of the view, What is
> wrong
> > > in
> > > > having an outward sign if that represents your
> > > inner
> > > > conviction ?????
> > >
> > > There is absolutely nothing wrong in that but
> the
> > > outward sign must be commensurate with the inner
> > > conviction. An imbalance may be very dangerous.
> > >
> >
> > Who are you fooling ?? Instead of changing your
> outer
> > signs to reflect  your inner spiritual traditions,
> you
> > chose to give up hidden Holy Thread to match WHAT
> ????
> > It is matching neither your social identification
> or
> > inner spiritual urge !!
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > In the process you have hurt your parents,
> your
> > > > teachers, and followers and dharma.
> > >
> > > I don't have any followers though many of my
> friends
> > > do seek my suggestions (only suggestions mark
> it).
> > > My
> > > parents, my teacher and the dharma were surely
> hurt.
> > > But both my parents and teacher were very
> patient
> > > with
> > > me. Moreover my horoscope also indicated a
> deeply
> > > religious trend. This was their sole hope.
> > >
> >
> > If you believe you hurt your dharma, you can
> correct
> > it now !!
> >
> > > I still think a thousand times before even
> hurting a
> > > fly. My compassionate nature is a boon to my
> > > friends.
> >
> > This is your own blown-up image of yourself. Who
> cares
> > abouot your compassionate nature ???? The BOON
> GIVER
> > is the almighty Lord Narayana !! Do not build up
> your
> > false EGO as a 'compassionate soul' and get
> trapped.
> > None  in the world is helpless to seek or depend
> on
> > your compassion. You are just a tool in His hands.
> > Feel greatful that you are getting a chance to
> serve
> > as His instrument. (I am writing this to chip off
> your
> > EGO, which you are failig to understand, use them
> as a
> > substitute to rationalise your failings elsewhere
> ).
> > Even 'I do not have EGO' itself is a notion. Right
> ??
> >
> > > I am especially very much hurt while coming
> across
> > > the
> > > atrocities heaped on the have-nots.
> >
> > There are several views on this subject. It is not
> > important now. You need to confine your domain.
> > Because have-nots are undergoing atrocities, do
> not
> > throw away your 'Jandhyam', stop searching the
> meaning
> > of Gayatri, and be an important messenger of
> > 'Spirituality' to the people around you ???
> >
> > > This is the sole
> > > reason I speak out against the varnashrama.
> >
> > Speaking against discrimination is not a
> jsutification
> > for disowning your varnadharma.
> >
> > > We
> > > trample
> > > upon the very people who were instrumental to
> our
> > > progress.
> > >
> >
> > Who is this "WE" ?
> >
> > "whose" progress ?
> >
> > Social duties are distinct from your souls
> progress
> > oriented activities.
> >
> > Om Namo Narayanaya !!
> >
> > Srikrishna
> >
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