Keeping Shikha [was Re: Sannyasins & cutting of the hair?]

[K Kathirasan NCS]

Thanks. I am glad you aren't having a problem with anyone else's lifestyle.
Unfortunately, I am also not the ignoring kind. So you have a nice day my
dear friend.

Harih Om,
Kathi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Srikrishna Ghadiyaram [SMTP:srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:32 AM
> To:   ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
> Subject:      Re: Keeping Shikha [was Re: Sannyasins & cutting of the
> hair?]
>
> Hari Om !!
>
> Who says I have a problem with somebody's life style.
> I addressed an issue which was raised on the list, as
> I deemed it fit. If you personally, do not like it,
> (it's your problem !!),  please ignore.
>
> Om Namo Narayanaya !!
>
> Srikrishna
>
>
> --- K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir at NCS.COM.SG> wrote:
> > Namaste Srikrishnaji
> >
> > Please keep your personal attacks out of this list.
> > If you have a problem
> > with Jagannathji's lifestyle it's your problem.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Kathi
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Srikrishna Ghadiyaram
> > [SMTP:srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:24 PM
> > > To:   ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
> > > Subject:      Re: Keeping Shikha [was Re:
> > Sannyasins & cutting of the
> > > hair?]
> > >
> > > Hari Om !!
> > >
> > > I had to be harsh to point your wrong thinking.
> > >
> > > --- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 at YAHOO.COM>
> > wrote:
> > > > --- Srikrishna Ghadiyaram
> > > > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > > Hari Om !!
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you call this fallacy !!
> > > > >
> > > > > The above statements are not only EGOTIC, but
> > also
> > > > > ARROGANT.
> > > >
> > > > I am neither Srikrishnaji. These are of course
> > my
> > > > views on the subject. In my childhood days I was
> > > > both
> > > > deeply religious and also an atheist.
> > >
> > > What do you call the above statements ??? Are they
> > > words of your EGO or your Atman ??? (if it speaks
> > !!)
> > > Any thing that you say, 'I am this , I am that' is
> > all
> > > your EGO. You were  just explaining, "about a
> > Sanyasi,
> > > thinking of his sanyasihood". similarly, you have
> > your
> > > own impressions of your religioushood, atheisthood
> > > etc. You are not beyond "I am this" views. When
> > this
> > > is strong and not open minded, a stronger word is
> > > EGOTIC, and arrogant.
> > >
> > > You can not be religious by thowing away the same
> > > religious tenets. I sympathise, your health
> > related
> > > problems. Probably, it was because of that, that
> > your
> > > parents wanted to make sure you were on a higher
> > > spiritual and religious life and stop  worrying
> > about
> > > 'physical problems' only.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here was a child who was raring to go the
> > > > spiritual way but had to face obstructions every
> > > > inch
> > > > of the path.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Because you had conflict (where in you were
> > inclined
> > > to spiritualism) you chose not to have a sikha or
> > wear
> > > the Holy thread !!  Does it sound sensible, at
> > least
> > > now ?? Do you need to correct yourself atleast, if
> > you
> > > agree that your childhood actions were wrong and
> > > misplaced ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Consider the otherside of the view, What is
> > wrong
> > > > in
> > > > > having an outward sign if that represents your
> > > > inner
> > > > > conviction ?????
> > > >
> > > > There is absolutely nothing wrong in that but
> > the
> > > > outward sign must be commensurate with the inner
> > > > conviction. An imbalance may be very dangerous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Who are you fooling ?? Instead of changing your
> > outer
> > > signs to reflect  your inner spiritual traditions,
> > you
> > > chose to give up hidden Holy Thread to match WHAT
> > ????
> > > It is matching neither your social identification
> > or
> > > inner spiritual urge !!
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the process you have hurt your parents,
> > your
> > > > > teachers, and followers and dharma.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have any followers though many of my
> > friends
> > > > do seek my suggestions (only suggestions mark
> > it).
> > > > My
> > > > parents, my teacher and the dharma were surely
> > hurt.
> > > > But both my parents and teacher were very
> > patient
> > > > with
> > > > me. Moreover my horoscope also indicated a
> > deeply
> > > > religious trend. This was their sole hope.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you believe you hurt your dharma, you can
> > correct
> > > it now !!
> > >
> > > > I still think a thousand times before even
> > hurting a
> > > > fly. My compassionate nature is a boon to my
> > > > friends.
> > >
> > > This is your own blown-up image of yourself. Who
> > cares
> > > abouot your compassionate nature ???? The BOON
> > GIVER
> > > is the almighty Lord Narayana !! Do not build up
> > your
> > > false EGO as a 'compassionate soul' and get
> > trapped.
> > > None  in the world is helpless to seek or depend
> > on
> > > your compassion. You are just a tool in His hands.
> > > Feel greatful that you are getting a chance to
> > serve
> > > as His instrument. (I am writing this to chip off
> > your
> > > EGO, which you are failig to understand, use them
> > as a
> > > substitute to rationalise your failings elsewhere
> > ).
> > > Even 'I do not have EGO' itself is a notion. Right
> > ??
> > >
> > > > I am especially very much hurt while coming
> > across
> > > > the
> > > > atrocities heaped on the have-nots.
> > >
> > > There are several views on this subject. It is not
> > > important now. You need to confine your domain.
> > > Because have-nots are undergoing atrocities, do
> > not
> > > throw away your 'Jandhyam', stop searching the
> > meaning
> > > of Gayatri, and be an important messenger of
> > > 'Spirituality' to the people around you ???
> > >
> > > > This is the sole
> > > > reason I speak out against the varnashrama.
> > >
> > > Speaking against discrimination is not a
> > jsutification
> > > for disowning your varnadharma.
> > >
> > > > We
> > > > trample
> > > > upon the very people who were instrumental to
> > our
> > > > progress.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Who is this "WE" ?
> > >
> > > "whose" progress ?
> > >
> > > Social duties are distinct from your souls
> > progress
> > > oriented activities.
> > >
> > > Om Namo Narayanaya !!
> > >
> > > Srikrishna
> > >
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