avatar and GYAnI (was Re: "Jagat satya!")

S Jayanarayanan sjayana at YAHOO.COM
Mon Jul 22 11:28:53 CDT 2002

--- "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at BRAINCELLS.COM> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, S Jayanarayanan wrote:
> > What is the difference between a avatar and a
> > jIvanmukta that you've stated above?
> There are some instances in the shastras which shows
> an avatar is not
> always possessed of full knowledge (or appears not
> to be.)
> For example:

There are similar examples for the GYAnIs too.
Durvasa, the great GYAnI, once had to face the anger
of VishNu because he offended a VishNu-bhakta. He then
had to plead with the bhakta in order to be saved. I'm
sure there are many other instances in the scriptures.

As to your example of Sri Rama:

> When the earth was flooded and the knowledge of the
> Vedas was in danger of
> bing lost, Vishnu Bhagawan became te boar Varaha and
> rescued them.  But
> afterwards, he went "mad" and almost destroyed the
> worlds with his
> rampages.  Shiva Bhagavan became the Saurabh (I'm
> not sure what kind of
> creaure that is) and fought Him until He calmed
> down.
> After Shri Rama brought Sitaji back from Lanka, he
> grew angry at Her and
> accused Her falsely causing Her to enter the fire as
> a test of Her virtue.
> The Devas led by Brahma and Indra had to come down
> from Heaven to remind
> Him that He was no no mortal king but Vishnu
> Bhagawan Himself.

Ramana Maharshi once narrated the story of how Rama
was crying out for Sita after she was kidnapped by
Ravana. Seeing Rama behave this way, Parvati said to
Shiva, "I don't understand why people think Rama is a
great person when he is crying aloud for his wife like
an ordinary man." Shiva replied, "Rama is the supreme
being, and is merely acting like a man, you may test
him if you wish." So Parvati puts on the guise of Sita
and appears before Rama. Rama smiles at her and asks,
"Parvati, what are you doing here? Where is Shambhu?"
Parvati is ashamed and tells Rama that she wanted to
test him. Rama then asks her to return to Kailasa,
saying, "We are all thinking of Shiva all the time."

The story shows how an avatar may sometimes act like
an ordinary person, but in reality is not bound by



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