[Advaita-l] Causal Body

[kuntimaddi sadananda]

Hai Jay 

Greetings. Why do I want to complicate my life unnecesorily with your
two saakshi-s.  One Sakshee A can do all the job needed for me- I do not
need another saakshi-D. If I do, I will definitely ring you up, since
yours is a local call. 

By the by, I am familiar with complicated theory of two saakshii-s of
dwaita and rejected that concept as it did not appeal to me.  

What you call sakshii-D is the 'ego', who is the false guy. This is what
bimba-pratibimba argument - or pot-space - total space concept.  He is
the result of adhyaasa that you are analysing. I am trying to get rid of
the fellow!

What you call saakshi-A is the absoulte consciousness which is reflected
as the 'ego' with in the antahkarana. Remember we are adviatins - no
need for two! The other fellow only appears and that is the essence of
adhyaasa.   If one can do, why bring a false guy to mess around! Just
joking.
 
By the by I did not have chance to study your adhyaasa articles. I will
do slowly and get back with you, if I need to.  I was hoping Vidhya will
be able to address the issues you have raised, if he finds time.  

Hari OM!
Sadananda


> Both Dvaita and Advaita schools use the same term sAkshee, no doubt.
> Both schools accept the necessity for jnAna-prAmANya, no doubt.
> 
> The conceptions behind the term  sAkshee-A  ( sAkshee in Advaita)  and
> sAkshee-D (sAkshee in Dvaita) are not quite the same.
> 
> sAkshee-A is chit.  It is eternal.  It is marked by antahkaraNa.
> Therefore it reveals things that are superimposed.   Chit is akhanda.
> "sarvam vastu jnAtatayA ajnAtatayA vA sAkshibhAsyam"
> (Every object as known or as unknown is revealed by sAkshee-A).
> 
> sAkshee-D is sAkshee-Indriya.  The knowledge produced by manas
> is apprehended by sAkshee-D.  sAkshee-D does not apprehend the bare
> knowledge,  along with knowledge it also apprehends its truth.
> 
> sAkshee-A is a passive collector of both true and false knowledge
> alike,  where as sAkshee-D is the final validator.
> The untruth of knowledge is also recognized by sAkshee-D when there
> is absence of coherence.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kuntimaddi sadananda" <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jay Nelamangala" <jay at r-c-i.com>;
> <ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Causal Body
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- Jay Nelamangala <jay at r-c-i.com> wrote:
> > > Dear sadAnanda and  Bhaskar-jI,
> > .
> > >
> > > The answer is provided by Sri Madhwa  :  sAkshee.
> >
> >
> > Jay - the answer has already been provided by Shankara too -
> saakshee is
> > the same as the consciouness that I am.
> >
> > Hari OM!
> > Sadananda
> >
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