[Advaita-l] 'End' not 'Means'

Amuthan aparyap at yahoo.co.in
Sat Apr 15 23:32:47 CDT 2006

namo nArAyaNAya!

dear shrI manIsh wadhwa and shrI vishvanAthan,

as shrI vidyAsha~Nkar sundareshan pointed out in an
earlier post on this thread, a *lot* of effort is
required *before* one can effectively look inward. it
was to stress on this that i pointed out that quote
from svAmi vivekAnanda.

--- m w <all_discussions_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...] instead of talking
> about if women can read vedas or not or this or
> that...it is better to stay away from such debates
> that could have no solution from so many centuries
> and wouldn't be so atleast for india...

i would like to point out that this issue of 'women
and veda-s' is NOT a problem that has remained
unsolved for centuries. until recently (about 100
years back), this *problem* never existed.

--- m w <all_discussions_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...] they
> don't have something that has been embedded into
> them as a tradition...and coming out of all such
> notions is the means to that end...which is also
> being notionless state....

the notion that one has to be in a 'notionless' state
is also something that has to be got rid of :)

tradition is necessary as long as attachment to this
body exists. getting out of 'the bondage' of tradition
is not something that has to be artificially imposed.
it happens automatically just as a dry leaf falls from
a tree. 

vAsudevaH sarvaM,

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