[Advaita-l] brahman

[Mahesh Ursekar]

Pranams Sastriji:

>> Pardon me if I say that you can understand these fundamental points only
after a study of texts like Panchadasi, Vivekachudamani, etc in depth.

I will do that but, in the meantime, if it pleases you, I would like some
help on my observations to your questions:

>> How can ISvara feature in the order of creation? Is he a created being?

Wasn't Krishna as Saguna Brahman "born" at a given point in time? I put the
word born in quotes since He chose to "wield his power"  and take birth out
of Devaki's womb. But does this mean that Krishna, Shiva, etc. exist as
Iswara and chose to act in certain ways? Is Iswara then one or many? And it
is still confounding for me to understand how they came to "exist" in the
first place.

Lastly, I would like to revert back to my original point on omniscience. As
per what you said, Iswara is omniscience as per Vedanta. Buddha was
considered the same. So was Mahavira. So was the kaivalya mukta of Samkhya.
If so, how is it that they differred in their view of reality? It this claim
justifiable?

Humble pranams, Mahesh




On 7/24/06, S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mahesh Ursekar wrote:
>
> I would like some clarification of Iswara viz a viz Maya. I looked up your
> terms and concepts section on the definition of Iswara but cannot seem to
> reconcile the two. In definition of Panchadasi, it is mentioned that:
>
> "Iswara controls maayaa and is the antaryaamii or Inner Controller of all
> beings."
>
> How can Iswara control maya? Maya is a manifestation of Brahman. It is
> often
> said the relation of Brahman to Maya is like that of fire to its heat.
> --
>
> My statement that ISvara controls Maya is taken verbatim from Panchadasi.
> You can understand this only if you continue to study these texts in
> depth.
>
> maaya is the power of Brahman. Is the power not under the control of its
> wielder?
>
> How can ISvara feature in the order of creation? Is he a created being? He
> is Brahman with attributes, saguNa Brahman. Pardon me if I say that you
> can
> understand these fundamental points only after a study of texts like
> Panchadasi, Vivekachudamani, etc in depth.
>
> S.N.Sastri
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