[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 56, Issue 2
adishesha cns
cnsadishesha at yahoo.co.in
Tue Dec 4 18:54:34 CST 2007
Dear Sri Anuj
Namasthe
>From your letters I understand that you are intending
to become a Swami. That is good. I would like to bring
to your kind attention about real vairagya and the
temporary vairagyas those have dealt in various
oriental works. You can cross very your mindset with
these and take decision thereafter.
True Vairagya : If one develops an undying interest in
Brahma and decides that the present birth should be
the last birth to him.
Temporary vairagyas : These are of three kinds.
Certain circumstances make us to take sanyasa. but
after some time when the emotions recede the aspire of
becoming a swami will fade.
01. Puraana vairagya: While listening or discussing
about philosophy the idea of taking sanyasa will
occur. But after some time the same will fade.
02. Smashaana vairagya: When the near and dear ones
die the idea of taking sanyasa will occur. But after
some time the same will fade.
03. Prasuthi vairagya: When a pregnant lady undergoing
labour pains she takes thousand oaths not to mate with
her husband any more. But after delivery as the time
passes she forgets her oaths and longs for her
husband. This kind of vairagya is known as prasuthi
vairagya.
You are authority to check what type of vairagya you
have developed. If it true one please go ahead. If not
please wait till the true one develops.
Another point. One can himself initiates into sanyasa.
But generally people try to affiliate to a certain
smpradaya.
One can become a swami / sanyasi instantaneously by
pronouncing 'Praisha Manthras'.
(Please refer to Devanagari (Sanskrit) script for
correct pronunciation).
The Praisha Manthras are;
Om Bhuuh Sanyastham Maya
Om Bhuvah Sanyastham Maya
Om Suvah Sanyastham Maya
Om Bhuurbhuvasuvah Sanyastham Maya
Note:- Earlier in the days of yore, Advaithi Sanyasis
used prefer not to take a new name after becoming a
sanyasi as it again tantamount to identifying himself
/ herself with body or corpse than with Brahman.
But todays law of the land do not permit so. Therefore
you can choose a new name of your choice which can
remind you always Brahman.
Regards
adishesha
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> 1. Re: Importance of Ashram (Anuj)
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> 4. Re: Importance of Ashram (Ravi Parimi)
> 5. Re: Importance of Ashram (Anuj)
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> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:18:02 -0800
> From: Anuj <whereisanuj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Importance of Ashram
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> Thank you both Siva and Ramesh, I agree that there
> are places which
> might not be cohesive for my purposes so I must be
> cautious. Where I
> am planning on going however
> (http://www.vedantaworld.org/) is a
> sincere and time proven place. I have met the
> founder Swami
> Parthasarthy personally and some of his disciples as
> well and know
> that this is the right place for me to further my
> understanding and
> search.
>
> Please visit the website so you may see for
> yourself.
>
> Thank you again for adding me to the list and I look
> forward to the
> knowledge that resides within.
>
> Anuj
>
> On 12/3/07, sivaramakrishnan muthuswamy
> <muthushiv at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rameshji,
> > I am bit puzzled with your advice to Mr.Anuj.
> Ashram is a great setting where one can practice
> spirituality. That is why Adi Shankaracharya
> himself set up ashrams at various corners in India.
> I am sure Mr.Anuj would have contemplated on
> choosing a good Ashram as he is 28yrs old. Infact
> in this present yuga, only ashrams can provide
> proper requisite for sastras prescribed spiritual
> practice. Grahasthashram life or living the life of
> bramachari outside the ashram setting without being
> watched is dangerous as the progress cannot be
> watched for. I consider Ashram's life is drinking
> nector. There is no point in watching the nector
> from outside.
> > Even to study Vedanta we need like minded people.
> Otherwise why in olden days Gurukul has been
> created? Currently we don't have that kind of
> system. Ashram offers a great place to study
> Vedanta under the true guidance of the noble Guru.
> The Advaitic knowledge is a transcendental
> knowledge. Only a true teacher alone can impart
> that. The knowledge outside this system will be
> only scholarly. The uselessness of this has been
> pointed out by Adi Shankaracharya in Baja Govindam.
> > Having said that, I should say the compassion
> Rameshji is having for his anuj Mr.Anuj is really
> huge. I am sure he really wants his anuj to select
> an enlightened master so that he is not
> disappointed. I completely agree that part. My main
> objection comes only on his later part of his
> statement where he suggestes "it
> > is better to watch and participate from the
> outside instead of
> > becoming a member.."
> > Having clear in mind that every event in this
> world is happening at the will of the lord, I
> wouldn't worry much about Mr.Anuj's future. Forgive
> me Rameshji if my words are not correct.
> > sincerely yours
> > Siva Muthuswamy
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: RAMESH RAMANAN <rameshramanan at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 8:03:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] New member introduction:
> Anuj
> >
> >
> > Hi Anuj, welcome to the fold. But before joining
> any ashram, please
> > check out its credentials thoroughly or you will
> soon be disillusioned. It
> > is better to watch and participate from the
> outside instead of
> > becoming a member. Best wishes and love, Ramesh
> >
> > "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:
> Hello, my name is
> > Anuj, I currently live in San Francisco, but am
> > moving back to India (New Delhi) sometime in the
> next month after
> > having spent 10 years here in the US. I am 28 and
> have decided to
> > follow my spiritual calling and join an ashram to
> further my
> > understanding of Vedanta over the next 3-4 years.
> I am joining this
> > group because I would like to read about other's
> ideas and have a
> > place to learn from like minded people.
> >
> > I hope this is all you needed. Oh1 yes, and I
> agree to the terms and
> > conditions of this group/website. :)
> >
> > Namaste,
> > Anuj
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