[Advaita-l] Re: svanubhavah and brahmAtma samsthitih
Siva Senani Nori
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Thu Mar 15 08:48:52 CDT 2007
From: NARAYANA MURTHY malahanikareswara at yahoo.co.in
In the ongoing topic JnyAna and gradations of JnyAna I have my doubt from this verse #2 of VC wherein ACArya Sankara says
AtmAnAtmaviveCanam svanubhavo brahmAtmanA samsthiti:
with specific reference to the topic, I have following doubts on the above verse viz.,
Why prefixes are added before the anubhUti and its sustainment
Su anubhavaha
Samsthithihi
praNAm.
svanubhava is explained by the Jagadguru Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati thus: [Having shown vidvatvam to correspond to SravaNa, and AtmAnAtmavivecana to manana] tatah svanubhavah nidhidhyAsana-pUrvaka-brahmasAkshAtkArah kathito bhavati (thereafter by svanubhavah is said that brahma sAkshAtkarah which is preceded by / coupled with nidhidyasana). The next sentence clarifies the su-part.
ata eva svanubhavah ityuktam, viparIta-bhAvanA-nivartaka-nidhidhyAsana-abhAve SravaNamananAbhyAm jAyamAna-anubhavah saushThvam nASnuta iti. (Therefore is said svanubhava, as in the absence of the nidhidhyAsana which prevents thoughts opposed [to Brahman], the experience borne out of SravaNa and manana does not attain completeness / excellence.
Now, to samthitih. The AchArya continues his vyAkhya thus: "asamsaktih, padArtha-abhAvanA, turyagA ca, 'brahmAtmA samsthitih muktih' ityatra.samsthiti-Sabdena vAsanA-kshaya-manonASa-saha-krita-svanubhava-bodhakena vya~NjitAh. (In 'brahmAtma...' by the word samsthitih are manifest a) asamsaktih (detachment), b) padArtha-abhAvanA (non-materialness), and c) turyagA (the fourth state) which are understood by that svanubhava which is accompanied by vAsanAkshaya (demolition of earlier impressions) and manonASa (demolition of manas).
The AchArya further clarifies: "tena sAlokya-sAmIpya-sArUpya-sAyujyAnAm mukhya-muktitva-abhAvaSca sUcito bhavati. (By that is indicated the absence of the main quality of release in sAlokya, sAmIpya, sArUpya, and sAyujya [states]). saguNa-vishayakatayA teshAm caturNamapi mithyatvAt, pariccheda-traya-SUnyatva-rUpa-brahmatvasya saguNe'sambhavAt. ([why?] Due to the falsity of those four on account of the saguNa brahma being their object, and due to the non-presence of the form of Brahman devoid of the three divisions {I think, satva-rajo-tama guNas}in saguNa [brahman].
What the above shows is that
a) there is anubhava, presumably of unity with Brahman, from SravaNa and manana, but it is subject to opposing thoughts (viparIta-bhAvas), or in other words, the sAdhaka is not firmly established in Brahman; his j~nAna is not steady. This implies not so much gradations of j~nAna, as gradations in establishment of j~nAna.
b) the upasarga 'sam' before sthitih is to eliminate the possibility of state of saguNa Brahman, and to indicate the state of nirguNa Brahman.
I hope the above is a true interpretation of the Jagadguru's vyAkhya and clarifies the point raised.
Regards
Senani
----- Original Message ----
Since I do not not even have parichayam of vyAkaraNam, I am not sure whether the padAnvayam above is correct or not. But considering the way I have observed the words above, it prima facie appears that Acharya shankara contemplates gradations in JnyAna by adding a prefix Su to the anubhavam and sustainment or for contemplated further derailment by adding a prefix samyak to the sthithi?
PS: This is from my elementary knowledge; if it is defective I would be more than willing to correct the same.
Regards
N.Murthy
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