[Advaita-l] jeevanamuktha vis-a-vis avadhoota

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Dear Anupam,

How about some similar etymological light on the term 'avadhUta'


sarvE bhavanthu sukhinah
sarvE santhu niraamayaah
sarve bhadrANi pasyanthu
maa kaschit duhkhabhAg bhavEt.



Regards,
Dr. D. Bharadwaj
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM, anupam srivatsav <
anupam.srivatsav at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> In Sanskrit, Jivanmukti means = a liberated soul, who still lives.
>
> Jiva is a bound soul.  MuktaH is a liberated soul.  Jivanmukti means,
> jivann api muktaH.  jiv dhatu (to live) + shatru pratyaya (to indicate
> present continuous) = jivan.
>
> mukti = much dhatu + ktin ptratyaya.
>
> jivan-muktaH = saamanadhikaram, which denotes the same person.  Though
> one lives, he is liberated.
>
> Living is a bondage and liberating is without any bondage.  How both
> can co-exist?  I wonder.
>
> With regards,
> SS
>
> On 3/16/09, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, manish mokshagundam wrote:
> >
> > > i find it hard to see the difference between the two. going by the
> > > definition that a avadhoota is a person who has absorbed all knowledge
> and
> > > has no need for even the vedas. how is he any different from a
> > > jeevanamuktha, who too has acquired all the knowledge there is
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I would define avadhuta as being more of a term of practice.  Whereas
> > jivanmukta describes more of an mental or existential state.
> >
> > Avadhuta refers to those sannyasis who maintain an extreme counter-social
> > attitude. (I won't say anti-social because the aim is not to be hostile
> to
> > social norms just seperate from them.)  They are particularly connected
> with
> > Bhagavan Dattatreya but there are Tantric and Vaishnava saints who use
> the
> > term avadhuta as well as Advaitins.
> >
> > A Jivanmukta is a sannyasi who has realized Brahman in this lifetime.  As
> > far as I know, the term is used only in Advaita Vedanta not in any other
> > sampradaya or darshana.  A particular jivanmukta may be an avadhuta or he
> > may not.
> >
> > --
> > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
> >
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