[Advaita-l] Examples of bhakti rasa realization by Advaitins

Kathirasan K brahmasatyam at gmail.com
Fri Oct 28 21:31:51 CDT 2011

Namaste Rajaramji,

The closest thing to advaita among bhakti texts is the svapneshvara
bhashya on Shandilya Bhakti sutras. Do see if that helps you.


On 29 October 2011 02:14, Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there any response to the following? Let me explain the context of this
> question. According to Gaudiya Vaishnavism, Buddhism and Jainism teach
> people to reject this material world which is full of sorrow as the limited
> happiness is also temporary. But they take the follower only to state of
> emptiness. Advaitam gives the follower a experience of being the experiencer
> (*kaivalya* *and santa rasa*) but ultimately denies the experience of
> Ishwara. All the monotheistic world religions such as Christianity, Islam,
> Judaism, Shaivam, Saktam, Sauram etc. allow one to experience an aspect of
> Ishwara in *dasya bhava. *Even vaishanava sects such as that of Ramanuja,
> Madhwa, Vallabha and Nimbharka give *dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and to a
> limited extent madhurya bhavas*. They limit madhurya bhava to within the
> confines of marriage or *svakiya madhurya bhava*. The speciality of gaudiya
> vaishnavam is that it gives all others from *santa to madhurya bhava *but
> most importantly gives the experience of *parakiya madhurya bhava, *which is
> possible only in the worship of Lord Krishna in the mood of Gopis of
> Vrindavana. Their condemnation of other schools of thought is on the basis
> that the followers are denied the experience of *parakiya madhurya
> bhava, *which
> is the purpose of
> brahman or pure consciousness. I would like to know if there are any
> references to advaitins experiencing madhurya rasa. Madhusudana is said to
> have experienced dasya and vatsalya rasas. And Bhakta Meera is said to have
> experienced Madhurya Rasa. But both of them can be said to be influenced by
> Gaudiya Vaishnavam. As Hari Vamsa and Bhagavatam were both well known to
> many advaita acharyas, I would be surprised if they did not experience these
> rasas. However, I have not seen evidence thereof. Can someone please point
> to one?
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Rajaram Venkataramani <
> rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If we see the legends of vaishnavas, shaivas and saktas, we see that they
>> experience direct relationship with the Lord in different bhakti rasas such
>> as madhurya, vatsalya, sakhya, dasya etc. Does advaita tradition record
>> anything similar more than bhagavat sakshatkaram?
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