[Advaita-l] Analysis of attributes and their locus

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste Sri Raghav

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Raghav Kumar <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> sri venkatesh murthy ji
> namaste
> can you please indicate, where in the dharma shastras, is it said that
> "Gruhastha has to work for a
>> couple of hours per day to maintain his family."
>
> my question is a bit peripeheral to the overall topic in this thread,
> nevertheless -
>
> your idea (please note that i am in sympathy with it) - seems to be
> that the modern (esp. corporate) work culture and lifestyle engenders
> a needless workaholism, where all work targets should have been met
> yesterday itself. And the traditional ideal of the grihashtha was to
> have a more balanced work culture, leaving enough liesure for
> contemplation and sadhana etc. I am curious - can you give the exact
> reference from the dharma shashtra referring to the 2-hour-a-day,
> 14-hours-a-week vedic work culture.
>
Kindly refer to the book 'The Daily Practice of the Hindus' Page 1-
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=VKT5PdG8PhsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=daily+practice+hindus&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NH8BT9_oFIaHrAfn3tDbDw&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=daily%20practice%20hindus&f=false

The correct time for earning for family is 9 to 10.30 A.M. every day.
But nowadays we have to work hard from 9 A.M. to 6 P.M in the office
neglecting important Dharmic matters. This is the Sudra Vrutti doing
unnecessary hard work and earning unnecessary money. This unnecessary
money spoils us and becomes poisonous to our Dharmic practices because
it makes us more and more greedy. A greedy man is more dangerous than
a man with Krodha Anger and Kama sex desire. If a man is angry he will
become calm after some time. If he has sex desire he will become calm
and normal after his desire is satisfied. But if a man is greedy he
will never be calm.  If he gets 10 crores he may be happy for a moment
but next second if he gets opportunity to get 10 more crores he will
go for it. There is no end to Greed- Lobha. This is the worst enemy of
man.

> thank you
> Raghav
>
> i am curious
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Namaste
>>
>> If you read Dharma Sastra books you can see Gruhastha has to work for
>> couple of hours per day to maintain his family. He has to earn only
>> enough wealth for maintenance of family and others like Sannyasis
>> depending on him and not more. But nowadays people want to earn more
>> and more and are not satisfied. How can they get Mumukshutva?
>>
>> How many rich people you know are like Buddha and renouncing wealth?
>> 99.9999% of them are greedy and want more and more. They avoid taxes
>> very cleverly even if they are rich. They are in a mad race to get
>> richer and richer all the time. The material desires are never ending.
>> How can they get Mumukshutva?
>>
>> The very poor people are also thinking of small material possessions
>> and dreaming of becoming rich one day. They are struggling to get
>> daily minimum needs. How can they get Mumukshutva?
>>
>> The middle class is the best class because they have enough comforts
>> for daily life. They don't have to dream of becoming rich. They can
>> get Mumukshutva more easily than the other two.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
>>> I think a middle class person having some comforts in life but not too
>>> much and some suffering but not too much is the best person for
>>> getting Mumukshutva.
>>>
>>> praNAms
>>> Hare Krishna
>>>
>>> I dont think the social status (poor/middleclass/rich)  of a person would
>>> play a vital role in deciding/getting mumukshatva.  I think saMskAra of
>>> that person would lead him in an appropriate direction.  there is no
>>> guarantee that middle class person is balanced in his mind and does not
>>> thrive to get rich...A two wheeler middle-class person may some how wants
>>> to get his hands on atleast a second hand car, instead of developing
>>> mumukshatva :-)) OTOH, the born rich owner of BMW instead of striving to
>>> get benz, one fine day, may realize the futility in acquiring material,
>>> get vairAgya and mumukshatva to attain everlasting wealth. (gautama buddha
>>> for example).    Its all depend on the 'pUrva janma saMskAra' that
>>> particular person has in his/her current janma.
>>>
>>> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>>> bhaskar
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>>
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