[Advaita-l] The point of discussions

Rajaram Venkataramani rajaramvenk at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 05:09:09 CST 2012

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>wrote:

> [was Re: [Advaita-l] Advaiti Response to this report?]
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Rajaram Venkataramani wrote:
>  Rajaram: For that one should understand that one is a beginner which
>>> members of academia and other schools dont.

> You are painting a whole lot of people with a very broad brush.  Some do,
> some don't.  Now in this case the the thread has reached 60+ messages.  If
> one has not yet gotten the message, what makes you think another 60 will do
> the trick?  It's a signal a different tack has to be taken don't you think?

Rajaram: I agree that I cannot generalize. It is perhaps possible that one
understands but does not agree with the conclusions of advaita. Regarding
moderation, I agree there should be a different tactic. Shutting down a
thread stiffles expression and continuing the thread without a genuine
dialogue is pointless. The middle option is to state one's conclusions
and remain silent so that Sri Venkatesh (in this case) gets time to
assimilate others' posts and/or exchange a mail with him privately.

>  I too thought I understood
>>> advaitam. Thanks to the patient clarifications by the members on this
>>> list
>>> online and offline (Sri Subrahamian and Sri Devanathan), I understood I
>>> dont. Now, I got a structured learning path from Sri Mani Dravid
>>> Sastrigal. The purpose of the list to help people learn advaitam and any
>>> action should aim to achieve that. I dont see how stopping a discussion
>>> will.
> Sure if clarification is needed it will be given.  I am not suggesting we
> shut down any criticism of Advaita altogether.  However, one has to keep in
> mind what the goal of vada is supposed to be.  Advaita Vedanta has a
> definite structure and dogma yes.  Too often this is forgotten or foolishly
> ignored.  But at the same time it cannot be ignored that the final goal of
> this shastra is to jettison all that.  The purpose of arguments internal
> and with external opponents is to aid in an inner transformation that leads
> to jnana.  If this is not happening then it only futile sophistry and I for
> one have more pressing demands on my time.
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> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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