[Advaita-l] : Apoureshyatva - Faith or Logic?

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Namaste,


Yajnavalkya's vomitting is not to be talken literally. In fact it was Vaishampaya's curse, which made Yajnavalkya forget what he learnt from Vaishampayana. Later on Lord Surya revealed the Shukla Yajurvaeda to Yajnavalkya. Further Lord Surya advised Yajnavalkya to pray to Mother Goddess Saraswati and that way Yajnavalkya could get  back the lost knowledge of Krishna Yajurveda. Later on Vaishampayana requested Yajnavalkya to teach the Shukla Yajurveda to his (Vaishampayana's) disciples.

In case you think that you could have given a better reply to Shri Rajaram's question you are at liberty to enlighten us with that, rather than using your semantics  to divert the issue. It is clear that you did not understand what the phrase "vomitted out" was used for, in this particular context.

Sincerely,

Sunil KB



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 From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] : Apoureshyatva - Faith or Logic?
 
Namaste

Yajnavalkya quarrelled with his Guru. Guru Vaishampayana asked him to
give back the learned Yajur Veda. He vomitted Yajur Veda and other
disciples became parrots and collected it. The vomitting story is
correct. You can read it -
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2049

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:43 AM,  <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sri Sunil, vomitted out? It is highly inappropriate usage. Anyway, the arguments in favour of entire Vedas bein available for humanity have been stated clearly. They are sabda and dharma are eternal.  The counters have been answered. They are rishis and places are only specific instances of what is already in shruti, apparent evolution of language and life ignore sabda pramana and are based on incorrect anumana at best. Each one of your post was responded to by those of
 us who boldly stuck to what we believe is the vaidhika view. If you think your position was not understood, please re-state it and re-present your supporting arguments. I will definitely agree if your view is established but I expect the same openness from you.
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> Dear Shri Rajaram,
>
> Do you mean to say that you have raked your intellect and yet you got baffled by my statement? Secondly read the first five verses of the Purusha sukta and you may understand where Brahma stands and where the rishis like Yajnavalkya and others like you and me stand in the process of creation.
 Thirdly have you also read my earlier
> mail as to how the evolution plays a part in these revolutions and why
> everything has not been vomitted out to humanity at one stroke?
>
> If you did and still you need any  explanation from me , then of course, I shall explain it to you. If you have not given thought to this I would request you to think about it and you may get the answer.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sunil KB
>
>
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>  From: "rajaramvenk at gmail.com" <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
> To: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012
 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Apoureshyatva - Faith or Logic?
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> Dear Sri Sunil, please explain why Lord Brahma would not know about Yajnavalkya - the power of Maya?
>
> Dear Sri Bhaskar, any word which is in the shruti it points to eternal sabda. If a word is modified in vyavahara, it is does not. Please note that for sabara sabda does not always mean word (rf. H & L in Sabara Bhashya).
>
> I understand you find it funny real yajnavalkya should know about shruti  yajnavalkya. But that is the inevitable implication of entire Vedas being revealed to Lord Brahma, setting up of pravrtti and nivrtti margas at creation, oral tradition etc. Rama is described in Rig Veda. It is but natural people in Ramayana time knew Rama including Rama from RV. But the power of Maya can make them act the script normally. The smrti texts come up to describe that.  Don't you find it funny that people do
 sandhyavandanam but can't chant gayatri because it was not revealed? How will brahmanas have children
>  if garba dhana samskaras were not revelaed? How will antima karma done? There is no room for revealing shruti over time.
>
> I live in the country where Darwin did and Richard Dawkins does. They are truthful and brilliant but their view is not vaidhika view which uses sabda pramana.
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> From:  Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
> To: rajaramvenk at gmail.com<rajaramvenk at gmail.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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> Quote
> If Brahma was revealed entire Vedas, won't he know about Yajnavalkya?
>
> Unquote
>
> Not necessarily.
>
>
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>  From: "rajaramvenk at gmail.com" <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
> To: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:52 AM
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> What is the confusion? If it sounds funny, please have a laugh. We allow hasya. If you want some thing funny, here is a story one famous sastrigal told me.
>
> Sita asks Rama in one of the ramayanas, "You are asking about staying back in Ayodhya. Have you ever heard of Rama leaving Sita behind in any Ramayana? What you say is sruti smrti virodha Rama"
>
> If Brahma was revealed entire Vedas, won't he know about Yajnavalkya?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 14:10:23
> To: <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Apoureshyatva - Faith or Logic?
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> Even before Yajnavalkya lived, vaidhikas knew about him completely from
> the shruti.
>
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> confusion!!  do you mean to say, yAjnAvalkya, maitreyi, gArgi, janaka etc.
> (characters in br.up.)   knew the bruhadAraNyaka upanishad & its story
> (janaka's  challenge, yAgnAvalkya saMvAda, his retirement to saNyAsa etc.)
> and
 simply acted exactly according to the script of that shruti??  And the
> vaidika-s who knew the shruti bruhadAraNyaka anticipated the future real
> life incidence of yAgnAvalkya ??  Something funny it sounds :-))
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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-Venkatesh
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