[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 96, Issue 7

[Swami Sarvabhutananda]

OM
The word 'apourusheyA' is to be aptly understood as not born of human
effort,meaning,however knowledgable a human being can be  the topic of
vedas deal with solution to human problems with  a remedy of MOKSHA.
The very topic to understand needs adhikAritvam and shraddA. One needs a
GURU to teach VEDANTA.
The words positioned ina sentence have to be aptly and properly understood.
Swami Sarvabhutananda

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>    1. Re: Sandhyavandana procedure doubt (Dr. Yadu Moharir)
>    2. Re: Sandhyavandana procedure doubt (kuntimaddi sadananda)
>    3. Brahmin charity organizations (Nageshwara Sharma)
>    4. Re: Brahmin charity organizations (kuntimaddi sadananda)
>    5. DevaKana or God particle. (Srikanta Narayanaswami)
>    6. Apourusheyatva--Faith or Logic. (Srikanta Narayanaswami)
>    7. A question on 'shikhai' (Murali S)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Dr. Yadu Moharir" <ymoharir at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
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> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 18:30:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Sandhyavandana procedure doubt
> Namaste
>
> Can someone share a complete set of mantras recited during
> sandhyaavandanam, along with meaning ?
>
> As Dr Sadananda has stated understand the meaning of these mantraas need
> to be practiced. (tajjapastadarthabhaavanam.h
> .. 28..)
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dr Yadu
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
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> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 6:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Sandhyavandana procedure doubt
>
> PraNAms to all
>
> While the discussion is interesting, the most important is to understad
> the meaning of the mantras and do it with that understanding in mind. Then
> sandhya vandana and in fact any vandana will be more effective.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
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> From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: "Dr. Yadu Moharir" <ymoharir at yahoo.com>, A discussion group for
> Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 18:43:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Sandhyavandana procedure doubt
> yaduji - PraNAms -the url below provides the meaning of gayatri mantra as
> provided by Swami Paramarthanandaji. He has CD discussing the whole
> sandhyavandanam but I have only provided the gayatri mantra here.
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
> http://advaitaforum.org/discourses-by-dr-sadananad/gayatri-mantra/
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/6/12, Dr. Yadu Moharir <ymoharir at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Dr. Yadu Moharir <ymoharir at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Sandhyavandana procedure doubt
> > To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 9:30 PM
> > Namaste
> >
> > Can someone share a complete set of mantras recited during
> > sandhyaavandanam, along with meaning ?
> >
> > As Dr Sadananda has stated understand the meaning of these
> > mantraas need to be practiced. (tajjapastadarthabhaavanam.h
> > .. 28..)
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dr Yadu
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> > To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> >
> > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 6:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Sandhyavandana procedure doubt
> >
> > PraNAms to all
> >
> > While the discussion is interesting, the most important is
> > to understad the meaning of the mantras and do it with that
> > understanding in mind. Then sandhya vandana and in fact any
> > vandana will be more effective.
> >
> > Hari Om!
> > Sadananda
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nageshwara Sharma <mvunsharma at gmail.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:13:06 +0530
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Brahmin charity organizations
> Namarskaram.
>
> I want to donate some part of my monthly income to a charity
> organization that is engaged in protection of dharma like gurukulas /
> vedic schools or runs orphanages for Brahmins. Please suggest me some
> organizations.
>
> Thank you and Regards,
> Nageshwara Sarma
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
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> Cc: provk <kamakris31 at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 03:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Brahmin charity organizations
> Nageshwar Sharmaji
>
> there are several.
>
> 1. We are running a pure Brahmain students hostel in Anantapur. It has
> just celebrated its 25th year. The poor but meritorius students are
> provided free loading and boarding until they complete their higher
> education (beyond high school). Under the guidance of Shrigeri Mutt Vedic
> chanting is taught to all students. If you want to donate contact me on
> personal mail for details.
>
> 2. The second one I suggest that badly needs funds is Kuppuswami Sanskrit
> Institute in Chennai. Profvk, whose email is provided, can give you more
> detials. Please contact him.
>
> Hope this helps. It is a noble thought - God bless you.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 7/7/12, Nageshwara Sharma <mvunsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Nageshwara Sharma <mvunsharma at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Advaita-l] Brahmin charity organizations
> > To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> > Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 3:43 AM
> > Namarskaram.
> >
> > I want to donate some part of my monthly income to a
> > charity
> > organization that is engaged in protection of dharma like
> > gurukulas /
> > vedic schools or runs orphanages for Brahmins. Please
> > suggest me some
> > organizations.
> >
> > Thank you and Regards,
> > Nageshwara Sarma
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Srikanta Narayanaswami <srikanta.narayanaswami at yahoo.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 05:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [Advaita-l] DevaKana or God particle.
> The same God particle was assumed in the Vaisheshika theory of Kanada.He
> said tow atoms form a "Dvaya anuka"and form the other objects.The
> Vaisheshikans beliived that the "Anus"created the world and they can be
> further divided.Kanada has given explanations of atoms form the objects and
> he held that the objects are formed by the atoms and different objects have
> difference only in the objects.Just like Diamond diferes from carbon in
> their
> crystal structure,so also objects differs from the number of
> atoms.Dignaga,the disciple of Vasubandu,criticised this Vaisheshika
> theory,and said that when the atoms are broken to smaller pieces,the pieces
> of atoms disappear.Therefore,it cannot be held that atoms are the smallest
> particles of objects.Being a Mahayanist and yogachara Vijnanavadi,Dignaga
> turned into an Idealist,who said"Yad antar Jneyarupam that Bahirvath
> avabhashate"(That which is the external form is seen "as it
> were"outside.For the Vijnanavadis,the world exists
> inside,in the mind,and objects are visible due to "Vasana
> Vaichitrya".SriShankara criticises in his BrahmaSutra Bhashya.SriShankara
> also has given an elaborate argument as to how,"Dvayanukas"donot join
> together.(This is at the end of the "Bhagavad Gita"(Bhagavad Gita
> translated in English by Alladi Mahadeva Sastri)The atoms are also not
> "Nitya"(permanent).The "Athma"is the permanent entity and it is present
> every where,regardless of the bodies.
> N.Srikanta.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Srikanta Narayanaswami <srikanta.narayanaswami at yahoo.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Apourusheyatva--Faith or Logic.
> 1.The mimamsakas are the first to say that Vedas are "Apourusheya".
> Veda pramana:The Mimamsakas give the reason for recognising the Vedas as
> separate pramana is that the "Dharma is not a physical object(Bhaoutha
> vastu).It cannot be known by the senses(Indriyas),or reasons(anumana).
> therefore,for knowing the "Dharma"Vedas are the only means.Other
> "Pramanas"are not useful for knowing the "Dharma".In order to show this
> that other pramanas are not useful and for condemning the argguments of
> others who donot acceept the Vedas.
> The "Shabdha"or sound are of two types.i.Pourusheya and 2.Apourusheya.
> 2.They come into existence by the human 'sanketha"or Signs.The vedas
> direct the 'laukika"which can be known by other pramanas.
> 3.Vedic words directs the "Aloukika dharmas"which cannot be known by other
> pramanas.The "Laukika'words change.They are not permanent(nitya)They donot
> change.If the words are to be true the person who utters it has to be
> "Pramanika"(honest).Therefore it is "sapeksha satya".The Vedas words are
> "Svatah pramanika"(self truthful).
> 4.Both Prabhakara Mishra and Kumarila Bhatta have given counter arguments
> for the objections against the "Apourusheya"vada:The words are created by
> the trials of Human beings.Therefor they are not permanent.The Vedas are
> not created by human beings.Nowhere it is said in Vedas that they are
> created by such and such  a human being..It cannot also be said that it is
> created by the 'Parama Purusha'(The almighty).Because,it is not famous that
> God exists.Even for an argument  we take that God exists,He cannot have
> created this world with so much sorrow.Then we have to say that the God is
> cruel.Being very powerful,he cannot have created this world with many
> defects(dosha).Since he is always satisfied and self-sufficient,woild he
> create this world?If the creation is under his control,inorder to be for
> his satisfaction he has to depend on the creation.He cannot remain
> independent(sarva tantra svatantra).It is not also proper to argue that God
> is necessary to
>  distribute the "Karma Phalas'for the "Jivas".The "Karma"is born with the
> Karma phala in its stomach.The cause for the human beings to experience
> "Sukha'(happiness)and sorrow(dukha)is is the "Karmas"of the human
> beings.This process of the "Vishva kriya"(World process)is
> beginningless(anadi).There is no birth not death for it.Similarly the Vedic
> speech is also beginningless(anadi).It is without birth or death,it is
> "nitya"(Permanent).
> 5.The sentence of the Vedas are born when they are uttered.When it is
> stopped utterinhg they disappear(laya).For this argument the answer of the
> Mimamsakas is like this.In order to utter the Vedic sentence the sentence
> must be in existence.first.Therefore the utterance(uccharana)shows or
> indicates what is existing uttereance and doesnot create it.What is to be
> uttered must be in existence first.They exist before it is uttered.It also
> exists after it has been uttered.Therefore they are
> "nitya"(Permanent).Thereforethe utterance is incidentsl(Prasangika).The
> utterance is mere Physical sound(Bhauta shabhdha).But,the speech is not
> merely a physical sound.It is meaningful,its meaning is not physical.It is
> "alaoukika"(not of this world).
> 6.Since diffeent people say the same sentence in different places,since it
> can be said at the same time,it is not "anadi'(beginningless).It is not all
> pervading.The Mimamsakas answer like this:The Sun is being seen by
> different persons.Therefore,the Sun is "anadi'(beginningless).
> N.Srikanta
> (To be continued).
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Murali S <muralivenkat67 at gmail.com>
> To: advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:42:10 +0530
> Subject: [Advaita-l] A question on 'shikhai'
> Are there explicit references to shikhai(tuft) in the Vedas,anything
> about it being mandatory.Is it mandatory to remove the hair(except the
> tuft) for a brahmachari/grahastha?Similarly any references to Kaccha
> in the Veda.
>
>
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