[Advaita-l] dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

Satish Arigela satisharigela at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 14 00:32:03 CDT 2012


From: Venkata sriram P venkatasriramp at yahoo.in

The first shloka can be found in a number of places, devI bhAgavatha, kUram purANa etc etc
 
>tAntrikANAmahaM dEvi na labhyO(a)vyavadhAnataH
>labhyO vEdaikaniSTAnAM ahaM avyavadhAnataH
 
It is clear then that the idiot who authored this shows that he does not understand that tAntrIka-s are not one group and that there never existed a group called tAntrika-s.
 
This is exactly why I said earlier, "not to lose one's mind by blindly taking every sanskrit shloka that you come across".
 
I suggest that one use her/his brain and do not  lose simple common sense.
 
Overtime, the abrahamic type madness madness seemed to have taken over the minds of some smArta-s. 
 
Just like one puts into a trash can something called Allah upanishad even though it is titled an upanishad, likeiwse, one discards trash like this using one's discrimination.
 
It is better to ask yourself the question why... instead of blindly quoting some shloka-s.
 >The essence of the teaching is that vaidika mArga & upaniSad vidyAs are
>superior to tAntrika mArga and tAntrika rituals.  The *abhEda-bhAvana* 
>of upAsaka and upAsya dEvata is the uttama mArga which culminates
>in advaita siddhi.
 
abheda bhAvana of upAsaka and upAsya devata is central to many tAntrika mArga-s and tAntrika rituals. So quoting this point to show superiority of something does not yeild any fruit.
 
 
>BTW, i can also answer several of your unanswered questions which you posed long back regarding the sharabha but i don't want to enter into long discussions which spin off several unwanted threads.  Shri Vidyaranya in V.Panchadasi had answered to that question that >the sAtvika mantras which are the pointers towards *nirguNa upAsana* should only be accepted for AtmOddharaNa.  And nrisimha anuSTup mantra is a pointer towards the nirguNa vidya.
 
If that is a concern, let us discuss it offline then. But please what I wrote once again on that topic. I was not saying/claiming nR^isiMha mantra rAja is not a pointer towards the nirguNa vidya(whatever that is). My claim and questions are something completely different.
 
So I would request that you please understand what I contend, in  clear terms before engaging in further discussion on that topic.

To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: [Advaita-l] dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

Namaste,
 
sUta saMhita says:
 
tathApi yO(a)MshO mArgANAM vEdEna na virudhyatE
sO(a)MshAH pramANaMiti uktaM kESAMchidadhikAriNAM
 
Rough Translation:
 
The pramANAs of the shAstra can only be taken so long as they are *vEda viruddhA*. 
So, tantra can be accepted so long as they are in line with the shruti pratipAdya siddhAnta.
 
 
tAntrikANAmahaM dEvi na labhyO(a)vyavadhAnataH
labhyO vEdaikaniSTAnAM ahaM avyavadhAnataH
 
Rough translation:
 
I cannot be comprehended so easily for those who follow the tantra mArga consisting of 
karma kANDa.  I can only be reached by those who have attained chitta shuddhi by following vEdOkta karma kANDa and upAsana as prescribed in upaniSads.  Thus, those 
who attain chitta shuddhi by following the vEdOkta rituals, I make myself available to them in the form of their own self which is *Atma jnAna*.  
 
Thus, those who doesn't follow the upaniSad-pratipAdya-Atmavidya and take up the  tAntrika rituals, *Atma tattva* is impossible to attain. 
 
BTW, i can also answer several of your unanswered questions which you posed long back regarding the sharabha but i don't want to enter into long discussions which spin off several unwanted threads.  Shri Vidyaranya in V.Panchadasi had answered to that question that the sAtvika mantras which are the pointers towards *nirguNa upAsana* should only be accepted for AtmOddharaNa.  And nrisimha anuSTup mantra is a pointer towards the nirguNa vidya.
 
Hope it is clear..
 
Dear Bhaskarji,
 
Thank you for pointing the typographical error.
 
namO namaH shrIgurupAdukAbhyAM....
 
regs,
sriram


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