[Advaita-l] Eternal Loka

Rajaram Venkataramani rajaramvenk at gmail.com
Thu Nov 8 00:52:02 CST 2012

On Thursday, November 8, 2012, V Subrahmanian wrote:

> > RV: My main point Siva and Vishnu are not in bondage but they are able to
> > engage in devotion to each other.
> >
> Let them engage so.  That does not contradict the Turiya state of the
> Upanishadic teaching.  The idea of Shiva and Vishnu duality persists in the
> pre-Turiya states alone.   We have examples of one jivanmukta engaging in
> devotion of another one, alive or not, both being well aware that their
> bodies are unreal.  What is required for such practices is a body.  And a
> body for Brahman is not admitted in the Upanishads as an absolute reality.
> RV: We have digressed from the core question in to dhruva, gopis etc.
partly because of me. The core question is whether an eternal loka albeit
non-different from the lord is admissible in Advaita. 1. I brought up Siva
- Vishnu devotion to show that it is possible. Both have no gaps in
brahmajnanam and are not perishable. 2. I also referred to the usage of
vaikuntha synonymously with the Lord and the Loka in SBh. 3. The reference
to BG 8.9 was also to show Ishwara with inconceivable ETERNAL form exists
according to Sankara. 4. The reference to eka jiva vada is also for the
same reason.

I would like to what you think about eternal loka in Advaita.

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