[Advaita-l] meaning of shumbha - nishumbha - kaiTabha

[Shrinivas Gadkari]

Namaste SriKrishna,
 
Thanks for this explanation:
madhu = bahutva vaancha (desire to be many) seems to be quite appropriate
kaiTabha = bahutva Ananda (joy in manifestation of many) - I am not too sure.
 
In an link on the internet (copied below) I found an interesting derivation
of kaiTabha : keeTa (insect) + bha (similarity, resemblance)
(other than this derivation, I am not too sure of the remaining interpretation
of madhu-kaiTabha given in the link)
http://sanjayprabhakaran.blogspot.in/2006/05/meaning-behind-madhu-kaitabha-story.html

Let us say:
madhu = bahutva (vAncha + Ananda)
and kaiTabha = like insects
 
That is, here the bahutva is crossing all limits and is in excessive amount like
number of insects. This seems reasonable.
 
Thanks again.
 
Regards,
Shrinivas
  

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 From: Srikrishna Ghadiyaram <srikrishna_ghadiyaram at yahoo.com>
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Om!

Sri Eswara Satyanarayana Sarma, a well known Devi Upasaka , Guru to many in Andhra, and a prolific writer on Devi Tattva explained the philosophical representation as follows:

Madhu Kaitabha - bahutva vaancha and bahutva aananda, respectively
Raktabija - jeeva bhava (Atma bija acquiring vishessha of jeeva)
Mahishasura - rajo guna (krodha)
Chanda  Munda - pravritti and nivritti, respectively
Shumbha and Nishumbha -  Asmita and Mamata (I and Mine), respectively.

Regards

Srikrishna
 

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 From: Swami Sarvabhutananda <swami.sarvabhutananda at gmail.com>
To: Shrinivas Gadkari <sgadkari2001 at yahoo.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] meaning of shumbha - nishumbha - kaiTabha
  
OM
Since you know sanskrit grammar you will appreciate that the language
anchors on dHAtu (root) and how the word yields to the objective of the
communication.
Sw.SrvabhutAnandA

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Shrinivas Gadkari
<sgadkari2001 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> Apologies to add to this post before hearing from anyone.
>
> Possible approaches to this using other similar words
> and instances:
>
> 1. shuMbha:
>    if we remove anusvAra from shuM, we get: shubha
>    if we shift "u" from "shuM" to "bha" we get : shaMbhu
>    shubha means good/ auspicious, shambhu is one who promotes good.
>    Can we somehow conclude from this that : shuMbha is a
>    subtle perversion of shubha or shaMbhu. Any support to
 this
>    interpretation from grammar/ etymology?
>
> 2. ni-shumbha
>    Consider yama - niyama
>    If we take the meaning of niyama as it used in Indian languages
>    today (hindi, marathi, ...) it means a discipline that is to be
>    followed as a routine. So then we can extend this to yoga to
>    possibly mean: that which is referred to in yama is given a
>    continuity though practice of niyama. Any support to this from
>    grammar / etymology?
>
>    If yes, then we can possibly have nishumbha mean one who gives
>    continuity to whatever shumbha represents?
>
>
> 3. While we are on this topic, if some one can similarly analyze
>    what kaiTabha may mean, it will be most useful.
>
>
> Regards,
>
 Shrinivas
>
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: meaning of shumbha - nishumbha
>
>
> Namaste,
>
> What would be the possible meanings of shumbha and nishumbha
> only from sanskrit grammar/ etymology viewpoint.
>
> Thanks,
> Shrinivas
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