[Advaita-l] Desire, Jnana and Moksha

Sujal Upadhyay sujal.u at gmail.com
Fri Dec 6 06:17:57 CST 2013


Ramana Maharshi says mind is nothing but continous flow of thoughts. I
think it is the same definition as given in Tatva Bodh. Sri Ramana Maharshi
says, mind of Jnani is Brahman. He also talks about mano laya and mano
nASa. I remember that in Vivek chudAmani it is said, destruction of desires
is nothing but liberation.

Mano laya = Jnani (e.g. Totapuri) - You enter into samadhi, but cannot
abide for ever
mano nASa = Jivan Mukta / Moksha - Sahaj Samadhi - no need ot meditate in
order to abide in Self




Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 12/6/13, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>   For one to become a Jivanmukta, three conditions have to be
>  satisfied
>  namely attainment of jnana, manonasha and vasanakshya.
> ---------------
> PraNAms
> From my understanding manonasha is not destruction of the mind but
> destruction of the notional mind or mind with wrong notions. Jnaana will
> eliminate ignorance as Shreeman LaliktalaalitaH mentioned but not ignorance
> born actions and the resulting vaasanaas. For that only nidhidhyaasana is
> prescribed. The jnaana nishTa or jiivan mukta is not a discrete event. As
> Swami Paramarthanandaji puts it, it is the reduction of FIR as one abides
> in the jnaanam. The frequency of perturbation (F), the intensity of
> perturbation, I, and recovery time from perturbation, R, goes down slowly
> as one abides in the knowledge gained by shravana and manana. Several
> stages for jnaana nishTah or jiiva mukta are prescribed based on the extent
> of this FIR reduction in the jnaani.
> Rest of what Chandramouliji presented concur with my understanding.
> Just my 2c on the topic.
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
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