[Advaita-l] Real vs. Unreal

[Sujal Upadhyay]

Nitin: Please check this Anugraha Bhashanam by Sringeri Shankaracharya
Bharati Thirta Swamiji- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJGnpVIQ1-k

Unfortunately, I cannot understand south Indian language. I am Gujarati.  I
will have to rely on translation of the above link and other discources
like 'Understanding advaita and mithyA'

Difference for Jivan mukta adn Videha mukta is perceived by us, not by a
Jivan mukta or videha mukta. No change happens in his state of
consciousness, it does not matter if body remains or not.

Aum



OM

Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sujal ji,
>
> I agree with the last part that, for a Jivanmukta, the body or any other
> non-self does not exist as non-self, but he perceives them as Self alone.
> His perception of duality is superseded by the realization of Oneness
> attained due to Jnana.
>
> I feel, the only difference between Jivanmukta and Videhamukta is that, the
> former maintains an apparent existence apart from Brahman for sake of world
> and the latter renounces even such an apparent existence.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Nitin bhai,
> >
> > I think unreal does not mean mithyA. Or say what is the english word for
> > asatya?
> >
> > Satya = Real / truth
> > asatya = ?
> > mithyA (in between) = ? - that which is transient experience.
> >
> > My English is poor
> >
> > Also what is the difference between anitya and mithyA?
> >
> > According to my understanding, anitya means that which is non-self and is
> > perishable. So if I destroy a cloth, it's irreversible end product is
> ash,
> > which is visible.
> >
> > While in snake-rope analogy, when snake disappears, it does not leave any
> > trace, like it's curved path, etc.
> >
> > Adi Shankara in Tatva Bodh defines both anitya and mithya separately.
> >
> > In Jnana Drishti, the world is negated and not destroyed. that is
> nirvikalp
> > samadhi. Then there is another word, satvam khalu-idam brahma. 'Idam' :)
> >
> > Sri Ramana Maharshi says, when you look at shadow, then sun is not
> visible,
> > when you look at sun, you cannot see shadow. Similarly, when you clearly
> > experience this world, you do not experience Brahman. when you clearly
> > experience Brahman which world is not visible.
> >
> > Body is Jnani is Jnana itself (consciousness). It is not physical body,
> but
> > the substratum of entire universe is his body (i.e. Brahman).
> >
> > Aum
> >
> >
> > OM
> >
> > Sujal Upadhyay
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