[Advaita-l] Real vs. Unreal

[Nithin Sridhar]

Oh Okay. :) In his speech, he clarifies on the definition of Satya and
Mithya.


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nitin: Please check this Anugraha Bhashanam by Sringeri Shankaracharya
> Bharati Thirta Swamiji- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJGnpVIQ1-k
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot understand south Indian language. I am Gujarati.  I
> will have to rely on translation of the above link and other discources
> like 'Understanding advaita and mithyA'
>
> Difference for Jivan mukta adn Videha mukta is perceived by us, not by a
> Jivan mukta or videha mukta. No change happens in his state of
> consciousness, it does not matter if body remains or not.
>
> Aum
>
>
>
> OM
>
> Sujal Upadhyay
>
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Sujal ji,
> >
> > I agree with the last part that, for a Jivanmukta, the body or any other
> > non-self does not exist as non-self, but he perceives them as Self alone.
> > His perception of duality is superseded by the realization of Oneness
> > attained due to Jnana.
> >
> > I feel, the only difference between Jivanmukta and Videhamukta is that,
> the
> > former maintains an apparent existence apart from Brahman for sake of
> world
> > and the latter renounces even such an apparent existence.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Nitin bhai,
> > >
> > > I think unreal does not mean mithyA. Or say what is the english word
> for
> > > asatya?
> > >
> > > Satya = Real / truth
> > > asatya = ?
> > > mithyA (in between) = ? - that which is transient experience.
> > >
> > > My English is poor
> > >
> > > Also what is the difference between anitya and mithyA?
> > >
> > > According to my understanding, anitya means that which is non-self and
> is
> > > perishable. So if I destroy a cloth, it's irreversible end product is
> > ash,
> > > which is visible.
> > >
> > > While in snake-rope analogy, when snake disappears, it does not leave
> any
> > > trace, like it's curved path, etc.
> > >
> > > Adi Shankara in Tatva Bodh defines both anitya and mithya separately.
> > >
> > > In Jnana Drishti, the world is negated and not destroyed. that is
> > nirvikalp
> > > samadhi. Then there is another word, satvam khalu-idam brahma. 'Idam'
> :)
> > >
> > > Sri Ramana Maharshi says, when you look at shadow, then sun is not
> > visible,
> > > when you look at sun, you cannot see shadow. Similarly, when you
> clearly
> > > experience this world, you do not experience Brahman. when you clearly
> > > experience Brahman which world is not visible.
> > >
> > > Body is Jnani is Jnana itself (consciousness). It is not physical body,
> > but
> > > the substratum of entire universe is his body (i.e. Brahman).
> > >
> > > Aum
> > >
> > >
> > > OM
> > >
> > > Sujal Upadhyay
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