[Advaita-l] Real vs. Unreal

Rajaram Venkataramani rajaramvenk at gmail.com
Sat Dec 14 06:16:08 CST 2013

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>wrote:

> I understand the practical need for sastras and teacher but question
> > the logical possibility of these. prArabdha karmA, avidyA-leSa, the
> > remnant vAsana or saMskAra or IshwarAnugraha are all only possible in the
> > realm of avidyA. I ask how they can exist in the absence of avidyA.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This conclusion is not proper I feel.
> Just as after a tree has been uprooted, it takes sometime to wither away,
> similarly some Jnani's exist as JivanMukta's due to Avidya-Lesha. Avidya
> Lesha is not same as Avidya. Just as even after the mis-aprehension of a
> snake is removed, the shivering caused due to fear lingers on for few
> seconds, a Jnani may exist as Jivanmukta till his prarabda karma lingers.
> What is important to be noted is, All these explanations are from
> Worldly/Vyavaharika point of view. From the standpoint of Jnani, there is
> neither creation, nor dissolution, neither liberation nor bondage. They
> perceive Brahman alone.
RV: They dont perceive brahman alone. They perceive the world too - hence
the question. In the case of shivering, the substratum mind is not
destroyed. In the case of the non-existent world, the perception is due to
ajnAnA and it has been destroyed. There is nothing to conitnue.

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