[Advaita-l] Real vs. Unreal

[Rajaram Venkataramani]

If the world is not tucham, then it should be seen on videha mukti. The
argument that it will be seen by jnAni in jivan mukti and not after death
is what I'm questioning.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>wrote:

> One more thing, World is not tucham- Non-existent like son of barren women.
> World is called Mithyam i.e. which has no existence of its own. It takes
> its existence from Brahman which is substratum.
>
> In Vyavaharika Dasha, we perceive Ishwara, Jiva and Jagat as 3 distinct
> entities. This perception is due to Maya. From Paramartika dasha, Brahman
> alone exist. Brahman who is Nirguna himself manifest as Universe in himself
> and by himself.
>
> Hence, a Jnani who verily becomes Brahman, perceives his Atman everywhere.
> What is understood as world, maya etc as distinct from Brahman becomes
> Brahman alone at Jnana.
>
> Hence, such a Jnani, whether he maintains a body or not does not
> matter.Just as God himself too avatara as Krishna by his own power,
> similarly a Jnani maintains his body for lila.
>
> -Nithin
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Rajaram Venkataramani <
> rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Nithin Sridhar <
> sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Is Brahman also bounded and deluded by Maya? Or Maya is Shakti, by
> which
> > > Brahman manifests? A Jnani has verily become Brahman and hence, for him
> > > Maya is not bondage.
> >
> >
> > RV: We see mAyA only from a vyavahara perspective as the cause of
> > vyavahara. Even now, we dont think mAyA binds Brahman. As of now, we
> think
> > Brahman manifests as jagat through the instrument of maya. Once you
> attain
> > jnAnA, there is no mAyA (or ajnAnA). Then where is the question of being
> > bound by mAyA or seeing its effects?
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