[Advaita-l] Re The stance of the upadeshasaahasrii on Ignorance, Deep Sleep

[S Jayanarayanan]

From: subhanu saxena subhanu at hotmail.com

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	Deep Sleep
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> Karthik wrote:
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> The upadeshasaahasrii 1.14.19:
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> AtmA hyAtmiiya ityeSha bhAvo.avidyAprakalpitaH .
> Atmaikatve hyasau nAsti bIjAbhAve kutaH phalam
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> "HOW CAN THERE BE A FRUIT WITH AN UNREAL (abhAva) SEED (bIja)?"
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> Hi Kartik 20 push ups for your translation:  it simply translates as "in 
> the absence of a seed from where is the fruit? "
 
 
The main point is that if the seed is unreal or abhAva, there can be no fruit.
 
According to you, if the "seed" in Deep Sleep is in fact unreal, how then can you even speak of a transition from the Deep Sleep to the waking state?