[Advaita-l] Fwd: Can Jivan Mukta become bound again a if he offends Ishwara?

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 19:18:48 CDT 2013

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From: V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Can Jivan Mukta become bound again a if he offends
To: rajaramvenk at gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Hare Krishna. I don't know the exact reference numbers of the purana -
> will let you know once I find it.
> However, as bandha and moksha are true only in vyavahara, logically are
> they not under the control of Ishwara? The traces of avidyA that remains in
> a jnAni is under the control of Ishwara. The results of prarabda is
> delivered by Ishwara and the jnAni is aware of it. Is it not?
> Let us say hypothetical case of a jnAni, due to purva karma vasana, acts
> as in BhG 16.18, resorting to ego, power, arrogance, desire and anger
> hating Him and others, will he get the result stated in 16.19 of getting
> thrown in to wombs of demons in nether worlds?

In the Brahmasutra 4.1.13 it is decided that upon getting the direct
knowledge of Brahman there will be the destruction of all previous karma
(which has not begun to bear fruit) and there will be non-attachment with
all future karma (that which will be performed by the Jnani  till the fall
of the body).  Hence, upon the expiry of prArabdha (that karma that has
already begun giving fruit by commencing this particular body) there will
be no more birth.

Hence any such 'lapses' (adhArmic acts) will  not attach to the jnani who
has identified himself with the Atman/Brahman; the avidyA has been
extinguished. (jnAnena tu tadajnAnam yEShAm nAshitamAtmanaH..BhG)  They
will be only 'acts' of the body-mind complex which is inert and as per the
shruti, this sUkShma sharIram of the jnani will not, cannot, transmigrate;
they will disintegrate and merge with prakRti upon the jnani's death.  So,
there will be no 'person' any longer whom Ishwara could punish, if at all.
Hence, technically the situation envisaged by you is impossible.   In the
case of non-jnanis, however, since there is the identification with the
mind-body complex, there is a certain individual, jIva, who will
transmigrate by default.


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