[Advaita-l] Naivedya question

[Srirudra]

Dear
The third chapter of Gita stanzas 7 to35 extensively deal with the origin of rituals and the  necessity to follow them meticulously.Only that Aham kartha attitude should not be there. 
Rituals are necessary but they are not the end themselves.R.Krishnamoorthy.

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On 03-May-2013, at 11:39 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here are some points to be noted:
> 
> 
>   1. नादत्ते कस्यचित्पापं न चैव सुकृतं विभुः । अज्ञानेनावृतं ज्ञानं तेन
>   मुह्यन्ति जन्तवः ॥ १५ ॥ The bhashyam: न आदत्ते न च गृह्णाति भक्तस्यापि
>   कस्यचित् पापम्। न चैव आदत्ते सुकृतं भक्तैः प्रयुक्तं विभुः। किमर्थं तर्हि
>   भक्तैः पूजादिलक्षणं यागदानहोमादिकं च सुकृतं प्रयुज्यते इत्याह -- अज्ञानेन
>   आवृतं ज्ञानं विवेकविज्ञानम्, तेन मुह्यन्ति 'करोमि कारयामि भोक्ष्ये भोजयामि'
>   इत्येवं मोहं गच्छन्ति अविवेकिनः संसारिणो जन्तवः। ।।5.15।।
>   2. In the above Bh.Gita verse/bhashyam it is said that the Lord really
>   does not accept anyone's sin or good deeds.  Then, why do people engage in
>   pUja, yAga, dAna, homa, etc. that are good deeds? It is due to their
>   ignorance: 'I am a doer, enjoyer/experiencer of my karma and will also make
>   others experience.'
>   3. For the eradication of ignorance stated above, one should get samyak
>   jnAnam of the form 'I am not a doer/enjoyer at all periods of time' as
>   stated in the BSB 'pUrvasiddha kartRtva bhoktRtva viparItam hi.....'
>   4. This is called by the special Bh.Gita name: naiShkarmyam.
>   5. The Bh.gita itself says: न कर्मणामनारम्भान्नैष्कर्म्यं पुरुषोऽश्नुते
>   । न च सन्न्यसनादेव सिद्धिं समधिगच्छति ॥३. ४ ॥
>   6. Thus, the means to attain to the state of naiShkarmyam, our true
>   nature, is by engaging in niShkAmakarma AcharaNam.  This is called karma
>   yoga in the Gita.
>   7. This is the path taught by the Vedanta to attain absolute freedom
>   from ignorance: naiShkarmya siddhiH.
> 
> regards
> 
> subrahmanian.v
> 
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Subramanya Uchangi Hiriyannaiah <
> subramanyauh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Thanks for immediate response to my doubt.
>> 
>> What message should we take from Shankara's Adhyasa Bhashya? Should we
>> accept it or reject it? Should we not try to forget that ' I am body'  even
>> after reading this Bhashya? It is clearly stated by Bhagavatpada that
>> Adhyas is the root cause for all evils in this world, in his last sentence.
>> "ASYA ANARTHAHETO ADHYASASYA PRAHANAYA  ATMAIKATVA VIDYA PRATIPATTAYE SARVE
>> VEDANTA PRAVARTANTE"
>> 
>> ( I know very much that it is not easy to do it).
>> 
>> Kind regards.
>> 
>> Subramanya UH
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Dr D Bharadwaj <dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Syam,
>>> 
>>> confess????
>>> 
>>> *శ్రీరమణార్పణమస్తు*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr. D. Bharadwaj
>>> http://drdbharadwaj.blogspot.in
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Sarma KV <sarmakv at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Namaste.
>>>> 
>>>>>> All these rituals are for those who think that I am body, I am doing
>>>> etc?
>>>> Yes, for those who think so and also for those who have and adhere
>>>> to preferences/norms in other walks of life.
>>>> If we adhere to rules set by someone in other walks of life, we should
>> be
>>>> ten times more eager to adhere to the rules set in our dharma SAstra-s
>>> and
>>>> when despite our eagerness it is not possible then confess our
>> inability
>>>> and go about with the next best alternative.
>>>> 
>>>> dharmasya jayOstu.
>>>> 
>>>> -Sarma
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Subramanya Uchangi Hiriyannaiah <
>>>> subramanyauh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear learned Vaidikas,
>>>>> Kindly clarity whether all these referred above are in the domain of
>>>>> "ADHYASA?
>>>>> All these rituals are for those who think that I am body, I am doing
>>> etc?
>>>>> I am  requesting clarification with the view,  based on "Adhyasa
>>> Bhashya"
>>>>> of Shankara Bhagavatpada.
>>>>> *Subrahmanya UH*
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya <
>>>>> pranipata at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hari Om Shri Bhaskarji, Pranaams!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> geeta verse comes to my mind...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are other gItA statements 'yoga-kShemam aham vahAmi',
>> 'sarva-dharmAn
>>>>>> parityahya..' also strikes your mind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Shri Guru Smriti,
>>>>>> Br. Pranipata Chaitanya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> he is vaishvanarAgni (ahaM vaishvAnarO bhUtvA praNinAm
>>>>>>> dehamAshritaH says lord) so, whatever we eat with prasAda buddhi
>>> that
>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>> to stomach and there  the digestive power the agni  also of
>> his..I
>>>>> think
>>>>>>> we should not lose focus on the bhAva while going into the minute
>>>>> details
>>>>>>> of type of naivedya & its preparation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>>>>>>> bhaskar
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