[Advaita-l] What exactly is karma saNyAsa??

[Sujal Upadhyay]

SV: So, same question as Sri.Rajaram asked -- why should a jnAni should
listen
unreal bhagavAn for the betterment of equally unreal ajnAni-s?

--

SaguNa Brahman cease to exist only in Nirvikalp Samadhi. Even
'samadarshina' means to see Atman in everything. If we take darshan as 'to
know', then to know everything is Atman. In this case too we 'see' or
'know', even though it is equality. We should not forget that when under
ignorance we were guided by Ishvara through Guru. If Guru takes everything
upon himself, then the ego arises. Hence even he does not take credit upon
himself. Either he gives credit to God or to his Guru. Guru's Guru gives
credit to his Guru and it goes on till we reach nArAyaNa or Shiva as Adi
Guru. Our Guru Parampara begins with both of them.

It is said that when in front of Guru, we have to be in dvaita bhAva. Hence
under the command of Guru, who is embodiment of Ishvara, though in non-dual
state, Jnani comes down from Nirvikalp samadhi for the good of all. If
Jnani does not come down, then who is going to teach the ignorant? At one
time, even Jnani was ignorant.

However, it is said that Jnani can cast off his mortal coil at will, but
always works as per divine plan.

Aum

OM

Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Srinath Vedagarbha
<svedagarbha at gmail.com>wrote:

> >> Will a jnani not know that even bhagavan is unreal and his svarupa is
> >> brahman? Why should he listen to someone who doesn't exist?
> >>
>
> >The answer exists in the cited verse itself:  it is for the benefit of the
> >ajnani-s.  He should not unsettle the belief of the samsarin-s who act
> >based on their faith in the veda.
>
> Again, same question can be asked -- wouldn't a jnAni know other ajnAni-s
> are equally  unreal just as bhagavAn (even though svarUpa of both bhagavAna
> and ajnAni-s re brahman).
>
> So, same question as Sri.Rajaram asked -- why should a jnAni should listen
> unreal bhagavAn for the betterment of equally unreal ajnAni-s?
>
> -SV
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