[Advaita-l] Why does anything exist at all
kuntimaddi sadananda
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Mon Dec 15 00:31:10 CST 2014
PraNAms
The Geeta statement is - mayaadhyakshena prakRitiH suuyate sa charaacharam. - prakRiti is the same as maayaa - maayantu prakRitiH vidyaat.
maaya is parameswara shakti - avyaktanaamnee paramesha shakti, anaadyavidyaa triguNaatmikaaparaa, kaaryanumeyaa sudhiyaiva maayaa, yayaa jagat sarvam idam prasuuyate - says Vivekchudamani.
Shakti has to be located. one become many involves a force since there a change of state. bahusyaam prajaayeyeti - He wanted to become many and became many - hence the adhishTaanam of including jada is Iswara only.
About non-existence - in Chadogya sad vidya this was pointed by Uddalaka - After saying existence alone was there before creation, he further says - some say the non-existence was there before - that is non-existence was existing - How can that be - it is contradiction in statement. Hence the upanishad itself rejects the argument.
Hari Om!
Sadananda
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On Mon, 12/15/14, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why does anything exist at all
To: "Venkatesh Murthy" <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Monday, December 15, 2014, 1:22 AM
No sir. Advaita Sidhanta
is very clear on this. Maaya is jada and
cannot/does not create on its own.
Brahman/Consciousness/Atman is
responsible
for Creation. Since Brahman is presented as Actionless on
its
own, Maaya is presented as the
intermediary which acts with the
backing/blessings of Brahman and is considered
as the Shakti/Power of
Brahman. Its status
of existence is considered Anirvachaniya because it
cannot be apprehended directly but its
existence is inferred from the
effect (
Creation ).
There are a
number of Sutras in BS in this regard for which the Bhashya
is
very clear. I presume there is really no
need to enumerate them here again.
Regards
On
Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via
Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
>
> Namaste
>
> Creation cannot be
from Shunya or Nothing. Because if Universe is created
> from Nothing the Universe also will be
Shunya only. This is coming from Sat
>
Karya Vada. The Effect and Cause cannot be different.
>
> The Universe is NOT
Shunya but Maayaa only. Maayaa is the Creator. Brahman
> is not Creator. Brahman cannot Create or
Destroy anything. If Brahman
> creates
Universe the Universe will be Paramartha Satya but it is not
the
> case.
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM, H S
Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
> >
> >
Namaste. As per advaita sidhanta, Creation is not from
Nothing nor from
> > Maaya either.
Creation is from Brahman only, but only an Appearence in
> > Brahman. Meaning thereby that it has
a lower level of Reality as compared
>
> to Brahman itself. Maaya is considered as an
intermediary step between
> > Brahman
and Creation and of the same order of Reality as Creation.
For
> > purposes of analysis , It is
formally considered as the source for
>
Creation
> > ( instead of Brahman )
since it is of the same level of Reality and lends
> > itself to be easily integrated into
any analysis of Creation. Loosely
> >
worded explanation of course.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:13 AM,
D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
> > >
>
> > शब्दजालं महारण्यं
चित्तभ्रमणकारणम्
> > >
> > >
We have to understand what the scientists mean by
nothing.
> > >
>
> > There is an "achala paripurNa" school in
Andhra which calls reality as
> > >
"batta bayalu" = open space.
>
> > They also call it as nothing.
>
> >
> > > regards,
> > > Sarma.
> >
>
> > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at
5:53 AM, Swami Sarvabhutananda via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How can something come from
nothing!
> > > > On 14 Dec 2014
22:09, "Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l" <
> > > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Namaste,
> > > > >
>
> > > >
> > http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all
> > > > >
>
> > > > This article is saying -
> > > > >
>
> > > > 'Their admittedly controversial
answer is that the entire universe,
>
> > from
> > > > > the
fireball of the Big Bang to the star-studded cosmos we
now
> > inhabit,
>
> > > > popped into existence from nothing at
all. It had to happen, they
> >
say,
> > > > > because
"nothing" is inherently unstable.'
> > > > >
>
> > > > In Advaita we say the Universe is
produced by Maayaa. But Maayaa is
> >
not
> > > > > Nothing. It is
Not Sat and Not Asat also. Science is still lagging
> > > behind
> >
> > > Advaita because Scientists are saying
Universe is arising from
> >
Nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
>
> > > > -Venkatesh
> >
> > >
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