[Advaita-l] 'न सत्तन्नासदुच्यते' Gita 13.12

[Durga Prasad Janaswamy]

Hari Om,
Namaste.


Gita 13.12
'न सत्तन्नासदुच्यते'

Question is whether
a. 'न' goes with सत् and असत्
or
b. 'न' goes with 'तत् उच्यते'.

That is
a. तत् उच्यते - 'न सत् न असत्'
or
b. 'न सत् इति उच्यते and न असत् इति उच्यते'.

In other words,
a. It is said that Brahma neither exists nor doesnot exit.
or
b. It cannot be said whether Brahma is in the form of existence or
non-existence.

Regards
-- durga prasad




2015-12-14 21:59 GMT-08:00 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>:

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Sri Siva SenAni,
> > Namaste.
> >
> > Thank you very much for the sterling work in sharing research with us.
> You
> > had translated from Dravyasamuddesa as follows:
> >
> > "न तदस्ति न तन्नास्ति न तदेकं न तत्पृथक्।
> >
> > न संसृष्टं विभक्तं वा विकृतं न च नान्यथा ॥१२॥
> >
> > It (Brahman)neither exists, nor does it not exist; It is neither One, nor
> > is it different;It is neither co-mingled, nor in a separated state;
> neither
> > is it modified, nor is it other than modified."
> >
> > The description of Brahman as neither existing nor non existing, (सदसद्
> > विलक्शणम्?) appears to use terminology employed to describe avidyA/mAyA.
> In
> > what sense is this meant?
> >
>
>
> One can read the BG 13.12 bhāṣya:
>
> ज्ञेयं यत्तत्प्रवक्ष्यामि यज्ज्ञात्वामृतमश्नुते ।
> अनादिमत्परं ब्रह्म न सत्तन्नासदुच्यते ॥ १२ ॥
>
> ननु सर्वाः बुद्धयः अस्तिनास्तिबुद्ध्यनुगताः एव । तत्र एवं सति ज्ञेयमपि
> अस्तिबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययविषयं वा स्यात्, नास्तिबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययविषयं वा
> स्यात् । न, अतीन्द्रियत्वेन उभयबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययाविषयत्वात् । यद्धि
> इन्द्रियगम्यं वस्तु घटादिकम्, तत् अस्तिबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययविषयं वा स्यात्,
> नास्तिबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययविषयं वा स्यात् । इदं तु ज्ञेयम् अतीन्द्रियत्वेन
> शब्दैकप्रमाणगम्यत्वात् न घटादिवत् उभयबुद्ध्यनुगतप्रत्ययविषयम् इत्यतः ‘न
> सत्तन्नासत्’ इति उच्यते ॥
>
> To put in simple terms: A pot, when encountered, is said to 'be': अस्ति घटः
> । When the pot is destroyed, we say: नास्ति घटः ।  Brahman, not being
> something that comes into existence and goes out of existence like a pot,
> is beyond the conceptions of asti and nāsti.  That is what is taught by the
> BG 13.12 expression: न सत्तन्नासदुच्यते |
>
> regards
> vs
>
> As an aside what ख्यातिवाद does व्याकरण use?
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
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