[Advaita-l] Shankara's view on Guru without having Shatra study

[Kathirasan K]

Namaste Vivek,

As implied by others too, the strictness in which the qualifications of a
Guru as stated by Shankara could be better appreciated by seeing the role
of the Guru as being a 1. transmitter of wisdom and not just 2. being a
mukta.

*Kathirasan K*


On 11 July 2015 at 22:34, Vivek via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation Venkatraghavan
>
>
>
> > On Jul 11, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sri Vivek,
> > Shankara BhagavatpAda is not being strict - he is merely being in line
> with shruti which says a guru should be "shrotriyam brahmanishTham".
> >
> > It's not sufficient if guru is just brahmanishTham, he would need to be
> a shrotriya too - because shruti says that it is ultimately shravaNa,
> manana, nidhidhyAsana of shAstram alone that leads to mokshA. The guru
> therefore would need to be a shastra and sampradAya-vit himself to teach
> students the shAstram.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> >> On 11 Jul 2015 14:31, "Vivek via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >> Dear Anil. I agree but there have always been exceptions.
> >>
> >> Just trying to understand why Shankara's view has been so strict on
> that.
> >>
> >> Vivek.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jul 11, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Anil Aggarwal <aaggarwal at wi.rr.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > For us mortals Samprdya is very important
> >> > Anil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >> On Jul 11, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Vivek via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hari Om,
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear ones. I'd like to get an insight into something
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems that Adi Shankaracharya promoted only the idea of someone
> being a Guru that has learned the Shastras.
> >> >>
> >> >> But there have been and are Mahatmas that are in the highest state
> and in that state have full knowledge of all the Shastras even though they
> have not studied them.
> >> >>
> >> >> That category seems to be on the bottom of the Guru list according
> to Shankara.
> >> >>
> >> >> Some views don't agree with this.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could someone expand their thoughts on this?
> >> >>
> >> >> Vivek.
> >> >>
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