[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** RE: Re: Brahman and Avidya - mutually exclusive?

[Durga Janaswamy]

As per Vivarana, Brahma is aashraya of avidya.

As per Bhamati, Jiva is aashraya of avidya.

thanks and regards
-- durga prasad

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> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:49:51 +0100
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org; ravikiranm108 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Brahman and Avidya - mutually exclusive?
> From: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>
> Sri Ravi Kiran,
> Mostly agree with you. On 6, I would say from Brahman's point of view there
> is no avidya. From avidya's point of view it is located in Brahman, and
> partially veils Brahman.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
> On 23 Jun 2015 19:38, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Namaste
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sri Aurobind,
>>> Both Atma gyAna and Atma avidyA are in the vyAvahArika plane only.
>>>
>>> When talk of Atma avidyA removal is made, it is to be understood to mean
>> to
>>> remove the notion that Atma avidyA has any fundamental existence. SAdhana
>>> is needed to realise that SAdhana is not needed.
>>>
>>
>> one can understand that ..
>>
>> 1. avidya or ajnAna and jnAna is for the jIva (antahakarana) alone
>> 2. Since the jIva is in folded state in deep sleep, there is absolutely no
>> knowing of anything by jIva..
>> 3. The importance of jnAna for a jIva is in jagrat, to remove avidya which
>> is the cause for saMsAra
>> 4. Brahman alone lends the existence to avidya, whose effects are
>> experienced by jIva in waking/dream,
>> as avidya has no existence of its own
>> 5. Brahman and avidya can co-exist, as can be validated in jagrat itself (
>> though Brahman being the svayamprakAsaka
>> nitya shuddha buddha mukta svarupa vastu, a jIva is not knowing It because
>> of avidya )
>> 6. avidya has no veiling or covering effect on Brahman, as its effects are
>> on the upAdhis alone
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>> From a paramArthika point of view, there is nothing to remove, nothing to
>>> be realised, no bandha, no mumukshu, no gyAni. Brahman is ever attained,
>>> hastAmalaka-vat.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Venkatraghavan
>>>
>>>
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