[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** RE: Re: Brahman and Avidya - mutually exclusive?

[Ravi Kiran]

Any highlights (or english translations) on the thought process leading to
the below statements (derivation) ?

Thanks

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Durga Janaswamy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> As per Vivarana, Brahma is aashraya of avidya.
>
> As per Bhamati, Jiva is aashraya of avidya.
>
> thanks and regards
> -- durga prasad
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:49:51 +0100
> > To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org; ravikiranm108 at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Brahman and Avidya -
> mutually exclusive?
> > From: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> >
> > Sri Ravi Kiran,
> > Mostly agree with you. On 6, I would say from Brahman's point of view
> there
> > is no avidya. From avidya's point of view it is located in Brahman, and
> > partially veils Brahman.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
> > On 23 Jun 2015 19:38, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sri Aurobind,
> >>> Both Atma gyAna and Atma avidyA are in the vyAvahArika plane only.
> >>>
> >>> When talk of Atma avidyA removal is made, it is to be understood to
> mean
> >> to
> >>> remove the notion that Atma avidyA has any fundamental existence.
> SAdhana
> >>> is needed to realise that SAdhana is not needed.
> >>>
> >>
> >> one can understand that ..
> >>
> >> 1. avidya or ajnAna and jnAna is for the jIva (antahakarana) alone
> >> 2. Since the jIva is in folded state in deep sleep, there is absolutely
> no
> >> knowing of anything by jIva..
> >> 3. The importance of jnAna for a jIva is in jagrat, to remove avidya
> which
> >> is the cause for saMsAra
> >> 4. Brahman alone lends the existence to avidya, whose effects are
> >> experienced by jIva in waking/dream,
> >> as avidya has no existence of its own
> >> 5. Brahman and avidya can co-exist, as can be validated in jagrat
> itself (
> >> though Brahman being the svayamprakAsaka
> >> nitya shuddha buddha mukta svarupa vastu, a jIva is not knowing It
> because
> >> of avidya )
> >> 6. avidya has no veiling or covering effect on Brahman, as its effects
> are
> >> on the upAdhis alone
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>> From a paramArthika point of view, there is nothing to remove, nothing
> to
> >>> be realised, no bandha, no mumukshu, no gyAni. Brahman is ever
> attained,
> >>> hastAmalaka-vat.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Venkatraghavan
> >>>
> >>>
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