[Advaita-l] Please answer to this

[kuntimaddi sadananda]

Shree Venkataraghavan- PraNAms

Shruti itself has both bheda vaakyaas and abheda vaakyaas. Shankara takes abheda vaakyaas as primary and bheda vaakyaas as secondary. While Ramanuja takes the other way around. Both accept that Brahman is both material and intelligent cause. Only Dwaita does not accept that. 

Both Ramanuja and Shankara use samaanaadhikara to account tat tvam asi statements. Ramanujauses visheshana visheshyaabhyam samaanaadhikaranam while Shankara uses bhaadaayam samaanaadhikaranam.

Madhva uses some sources which are not really accessible to any body to justify his stand. 

Just a note

Hari Om!
Sadananda


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On Mon, 10/19/15, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Harsha Bhat" <harsha9519 at gmail.com>
 Date: Monday, October 19, 2015, 1:36 PM
 
 Sri Harsha,
 What difference does it possibly make? Whether
 someone wins a debate or
 not, how is that
 going to help?
 
 I for one am
 not a historian, so I cannot say who won, or even if a
 debate
 took place, but frankly I don't
 care.
 
 However one thing is
 for sure - it is absolutely evident that advaita
 siddhAnta stems directly from shruti.
 Therefore, even if some clever person
 wins a
 debate today, someone cleverer can come tomorrow to disprove
 him,
 but as long as his siddhAnta is at odds
 with vedA it cannot be right.
 
 However, a shruti based siddhAnta can never be
 disproved, because of the
 very fact that it
 comes from the VedA.
 
 Therefore I'm not so interested to know the
 history of the debate, what I'm
 concerned with is to understand the shruti
 established advaita siddhAnta
 correctly.
 
 Regards,
 Venkatraghavan
 On 15 Oct 2015
 17:14, "Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l" <
 advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 
 > And one more
 point I forgot to mention,
 >
 >
 >             
             That  madhva pandith also said that
 even
 > shankaracharya lost in debate with
 vedavyasa,he also adds that ,
 > even in
 some shankara vijaya says that adi shankara lost in debate
 with
 > vedavyasa.
 >
 >
 > So,please tell me
 whether in any shankara vijaya there is a topic of
 > shankaracharya losing debate with
 vedavyasa?
 >
 > Or it
 is also one among maadhva's  crooked up stories?
 >
 >  Any knowledgeable
 person,please answer....
 >
 >
 > regards,
 > Harsha Bhat
 >
 > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Srirudra
 <srirudra at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 > >
 Dear
 > > Whether should replace
 weather.This type of mistaken spellings are
 > > provided by the iPad .So one should
 be careful while forwarding the
 > >
 mail.R.Krishnamoorthy.
 > >
 > > Sent from my iPad
 > >
 > > > On
 15-Oct-2015, at 7:46 PM, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
 > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 > > >
 >
 > > Namaskara,
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 1)      Madhvas are very famous for loose talk and they
 always down
 > grade
 >
 > > other philosophy and its acharyas.
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > > When talking about this
 with a famous madhva pandith,he said not only
 > we
 > > > madhvas
 ,advaithis also down grade madhvas.
 >
 > >
 > > > He said vidhyaranya
 called madhvachrya as madhu named devil. Which
 > comes
 > > in
 > > > soura purana.
 > > >
 > > >
 Weather it is true?
 > > >
 > > > Weather vidhyaranya called
 madhva as madhu named devil?
 > > >
 If so,where ? in which book?
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > > Please reply ,so that  I can answer him...
 > > >
 > >
 >   2) And also,he said vidhyaranya got
 defeated by akshobhya theertha in
 > >
 > vakhyartha of "tat tvam asi"...
 > > >
 > > >
 In respect of that, vidhyaranya installed a vijaya sthamba
 in
 > mulibagilu
 > >
 > for respecting akshobhya theertha...
 > > >
 > > >
 Weather it is true that  vidhyaranaya got defeated by
 akshobhya
 > theertha
 >
 > > for  vakhyartha of tat tvam asi?
 > > >
 > > >
 Or it is just dvaithi's crooked up story for down
 grading other
 > > philosophy
 > > > acharyas?
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > > regards,
 >
 > > Harsha Bhat
 > > >
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