[Advaita-l] Please answer to this

[Venkatraghavan S]

Sri SadAji,
Agreed, but that is my point. One has to use the right means of knowledge
to arrive at a conclusion, rather than the result of some debate. We have
to go through the underlying logic  ourselves to see if we are convinced by
it, rather than take the result of an argument of dubious historicity as
determining anything, however eminent the personalities involved.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan
On 20 Oct 2015 04:36, "kuntimaddi sadananda" <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Shree Venkataraghavan- PraNAms
>
> Shruti itself has both bheda vaakyaas and abheda vaakyaas. Shankara takes
> abheda vaakyaas as primary and bheda vaakyaas as secondary. While Ramanuja
> takes the other way around. Both accept that Brahman is both material and
> intelligent cause. Only Dwaita does not accept that.
>
> Both Ramanuja and Shankara use samaanaadhikara to account tat tvam asi
> statements. Ramanujauses visheshana visheshyaabhyam samaanaadhikaranam
> while Shankara uses bhaadaayam samaanaadhikaranam.
>
> Madhva uses some sources which are not really accessible to any body to
> justify his stand.
>
> Just a note
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 10/19/15, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
>  To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Harsha Bhat" <harsha9519 at gmail.com>
>  Date: Monday, October 19, 2015, 1:36 PM
>
>  Sri Harsha,
>  What difference does it possibly make? Whether
>  someone wins a debate or
>  not, how is that
>  going to help?
>
>  I for one am
>  not a historian, so I cannot say who won, or even if a
>  debate
>  took place, but frankly I don't
>  care.
>
>  However one thing is
>  for sure - it is absolutely evident that advaita
>  siddhAnta stems directly from shruti.
>  Therefore, even if some clever person
>  wins a
>  debate today, someone cleverer can come tomorrow to disprove
>  him,
>  but as long as his siddhAnta is at odds
>  with vedA it cannot be right.
>
>  However, a shruti based siddhAnta can never be
>  disproved, because of the
>  very fact that it
>  comes from the VedA.
>
>  Therefore I'm not so interested to know the
>  history of the debate, what I'm
>  concerned with is to understand the shruti
>  established advaita siddhAnta
>  correctly.
>
>  Regards,
>  Venkatraghavan
>  On 15 Oct 2015
>  17:14, "Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l" <
>  advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>  wrote:
>
>  > And one more
>  point I forgot to mention,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>              That  madhva pandith also said that
>  even
>  > shankaracharya lost in debate with
>  vedavyasa,he also adds that ,
>  > even in
>  some shankara vijaya says that adi shankara lost in debate
>  with
>  > vedavyasa.
>  >
>  >
>  > So,please tell me
>  whether in any shankara vijaya there is a topic of
>  > shankaracharya losing debate with
>  vedavyasa?
>  >
>  > Or it
>  is also one among maadhva's  crooked up stories?
>  >
>  >  Any knowledgeable
>  person,please answer....
>  >
>  >
>  > regards,
>  > Harsha Bhat
>  >
>  > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Srirudra
>  <srirudra at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  Dear
>  > > Whether should replace
>  weather.This type of mistaken spellings are
>  > > provided by the iPad .So one should
>  be careful while forwarding the
>  > >
>  mail.R.Krishnamoorthy.
>  > >
>  > > Sent from my iPad
>  > >
>  > > > On
>  15-Oct-2015, at 7:46 PM, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
>  > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>  wrote:
>  > > >
>  >
>  > > Namaskara,
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  1)      Madhvas are very famous for loose talk and they
>  always down
>  > grade
>  >
>  > > other philosophy and its acharyas.
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > > > When talking about this
>  with a famous madhva pandith,he said not only
>  > we
>  > > > madhvas
>  ,advaithis also down grade madhvas.
>  >
>  > >
>  > > > He said vidhyaranya
>  called madhvachrya as madhu named devil. Which
>  > comes
>  > > in
>  > > > soura purana.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Weather it is true?
>  > > >
>  > > > Weather vidhyaranya called
>  madhva as madhu named devil?
>  > > >
>  If so,where ? in which book?
>  > >
>  >
>  > > >
>  >
>  > > Please reply ,so that  I can answer him...
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >   2) And also,he said vidhyaranya got
>  defeated by akshobhya theertha in
>  > >
>  > vakhyartha of "tat tvam asi"...
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  In respect of that, vidhyaranya installed a vijaya sthamba
>  in
>  > mulibagilu
>  > >
>  > for respecting akshobhya theertha...
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Weather it is true that  vidhyaranaya got defeated by
>  akshobhya
>  > theertha
>  >
>  > > for  vakhyartha of tat tvam asi?
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Or it is just dvaithi's crooked up story for down
>  grading other
>  > > philosophy
>  > > > acharyas?
>  >
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > > > regards,
>  >
>  > > Harsha Bhat
>  > > >
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