[Advaita-l] Please answer to this

[H S Chandramouli]

Sri Sadananda Ji,

Sri Bhagavatpada also uses Mukhya Samaanaadhikaranam apart from Badha
Samaanaadhikaranam
to explain tat tvam asi by way of the classic illustration of Ghatakasha
and Mahakasha. Just a passing observation.

I have heard Sri Paramarthananda Swamiji discuss Samaanaadhikaranam in some
other context , not the one you have mentioned. I think he covered both the
above  in that context under the fourth category by calling it Lakshya
Lakshana  Samaanaadhikaranam. I am recalling from memory and could be
wrong. But an interesting point he made was that one scholar has listed as
many as sixteen types of Samaanaadhikaranams  and that he ( Sri SP ) was
only covering four of them in the talk. Just as supplementary info.

Regards and Pranams

   .

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:06 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Shree Venkataraghavan- PraNAms
>
> Shruti itself has both bheda vaakyaas and abheda vaakyaas. Shankara takes
> abheda vaakyaas as primary and bheda vaakyaas as secondary. While Ramanuja
> takes the other way around. Both accept that Brahman is both material and
> intelligent cause. Only Dwaita does not accept that.
>
> Both Ramanuja and Shankara use samaanaadhikara to account tat tvam asi
> statements. Ramanujauses visheshana visheshyaabhyam samaanaadhikaranam
> while Shankara uses bhaadaayam samaanaadhikaranam.
>
> Madhva uses some sources which are not really accessible to any body to
> justify his stand.
>
> Just a note
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 10/19/15, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
>  To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Harsha Bhat" <harsha9519 at gmail.com>
>  Date: Monday, October 19, 2015, 1:36 PM
>
>  Sri Harsha,
>  What difference does it possibly make? Whether
>  someone wins a debate or
>  not, how is that
>  going to help?
>
>  I for one am
>  not a historian, so I cannot say who won, or even if a
>  debate
>  took place, but frankly I don't
>  care.
>
>  However one thing is
>  for sure - it is absolutely evident that advaita
>  siddhAnta stems directly from shruti.
>  Therefore, even if some clever person
>  wins a
>  debate today, someone cleverer can come tomorrow to disprove
>  him,
>  but as long as his siddhAnta is at odds
>  with vedA it cannot be right.
>
>  However, a shruti based siddhAnta can never be
>  disproved, because of the
>  very fact that it
>  comes from the VedA.
>
>  Therefore I'm not so interested to know the
>  history of the debate, what I'm
>  concerned with is to understand the shruti
>  established advaita siddhAnta
>  correctly.
>
>  Regards,
>  Venkatraghavan
>  On 15 Oct 2015
>  17:14, "Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l" <
>  advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>  wrote:
>
>  > And one more
>  point I forgot to mention,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>              That  madhva pandith also said that
>  even
>  > shankaracharya lost in debate with
>  vedavyasa,he also adds that ,
>  > even in
>  some shankara vijaya says that adi shankara lost in debate
>  with
>  > vedavyasa.
>  >
>  >
>  > So,please tell me
>  whether in any shankara vijaya there is a topic of
>  > shankaracharya losing debate with
>  vedavyasa?
>  >
>  > Or it
>  is also one among maadhva's  crooked up stories?
>  >
>  >  Any knowledgeable
>  person,please answer....
>  >
>  >
>  > regards,
>  > Harsha Bhat
>  >
>  > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Srirudra
>  <srirudra at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  Dear
>  > > Whether should replace
>  weather.This type of mistaken spellings are
>  > > provided by the iPad .So one should
>  be careful while forwarding the
>  > >
>  mail.R.Krishnamoorthy.
>  > >
>  > > Sent from my iPad
>  > >
>  > > > On
>  15-Oct-2015, at 7:46 PM, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
>  > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>  wrote:
>  > > >
>  >
>  > > Namaskara,
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  1)      Madhvas are very famous for loose talk and they
>  always down
>  > grade
>  >
>  > > other philosophy and its acharyas.
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > > > When talking about this
>  with a famous madhva pandith,he said not only
>  > we
>  > > > madhvas
>  ,advaithis also down grade madhvas.
>  >
>  > >
>  > > > He said vidhyaranya
>  called madhvachrya as madhu named devil. Which
>  > comes
>  > > in
>  > > > soura purana.
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Weather it is true?
>  > > >
>  > > > Weather vidhyaranya called
>  madhva as madhu named devil?
>  > > >
>  If so,where ? in which book?
>  > >
>  >
>  > > >
>  >
>  > > Please reply ,so that  I can answer him...
>  > > >
>  > >
>  >   2) And also,he said vidhyaranya got
>  defeated by akshobhya theertha in
>  > >
>  > vakhyartha of "tat tvam asi"...
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  In respect of that, vidhyaranya installed a vijaya sthamba
>  in
>  > mulibagilu
>  > >
>  > for respecting akshobhya theertha...
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Weather it is true that  vidhyaranaya got defeated by
>  akshobhya
>  > theertha
>  >
>  > > for  vakhyartha of tat tvam asi?
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  Or it is just dvaithi's crooked up story for down
>  grading other
>  > > philosophy
>  > > > acharyas?
>  >
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > > > regards,
>  >
>  > > Harsha Bhat
>  > > >
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