[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

[Srinath Vedagarbha]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Srinath ji,
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Srinath Vedagarbha via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> In the spirit of jumping from one reference to the other, I agree with you
>> in calling adhyaasa "jagat" as mithya. In the same we should also call
>> "Jiva" as mithya as the notion of jIvahood is equally adhyAsa over the
>> same
>> adhishTAnaM. Then statement would be -- brahma satya jagan mithyA jeeva
>> mithyA ubhyOr brahmaiva na aparaH.
>>
>> Why not the same treatment to jIva is given?
>>
>
> We're back to square one! In the spirit of jumping, we have somehow jumped
> back to the beginning of the first thread in about 250 odd mails here!! :)
>

> The jIva misunderstands himself as the superimposed part of jagat, that
> makes up the body mind sense complex (BMSC), while he is really brahman.
>

Jiva does not misunderstands that way, but rather Jiva is the result of
misunderstanding. Essentially this take us back to the original question
(Sri.Ramanuja questions in His srIbhAshya) -- who is having avidya? jIva is
having avidya? or jIva itself is the result of avidya?





> Somehow the crucial point is amiss that BMSC *is* jagat. The jIvatva is
> really the erroneous notion of individuality. While the individual
> considers the part of jagat, that is BMSC, which he associates with as
> himself, he doesn't have the same problem with the rest of the jagat. Thats
> why jagat appears to be as separate from one's own BMSC. However, BMSC is
> as much jagat as the outside jagat is and therefore as mithyA as jagat.
> Therefore, brahma satya jaganmithyA is saying that jIva's association with
> mithyA jagat is an error, jIva is brahman.
>
>
When jIvatva is BMSC and BMSC is mithya, then what else is left in BMSC for
you to say jIva is brahman?

Correct way to say is Jiva/BMSC is mithya while only chid part of former
Jiva/BMSC is Brahman. This is the essence of bhAgatyAga nyAya as applied to
tattvam asi.

/sv