[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

Shashwata Shastri shashwata.unimas at gmail.com
Thu Apr 28 06:35:46 CDT 2016

Namaste to All,

"*There is a legend which states that when the four brahma-rishis Sanaka,
> Sanandana, Sanatana, Sanatkumara who are collectively called as ‘kumaras’,
> emerged from Brahma as his mind born sons; they didn’t show interest in
> becoming prajapati and helping Brahma in further creating by procreating
> offsprings. They were constantly in search of brahma-gyanam. They were
> looking for a preceptor capable of dispelling their all doubts. While being
> on lookout for such a preceptor they were wandering from pillar to post
> when suddenly in one secluded place they saw a huge banyan tree (vata
> vruksham) and under that tree they found a sixteen years old young lad
> ‘Dakshinamurty’ sitting surrounded by octogenarian sages. The names and
> number of these sages vary in various agamas. These four kumaras gravitated
> to the serene looking face of that Dakshinamurty and sat surrounding him.
> Soon they got absorbed into the supreme silence of Dakshinamurty and all
> their queries related to Brahman got resolved.*"

*"kaa.nsyaghaNTaaninaadastu yathaa liiyati shaantaye | o~Nkaarastu tathaa
yojyaH shaantaye sarvamichchhataa | yasminviliiyate shabdastatparaM brahma
giiyate | dhiya.n hi liiyate brahma so.amR^itatvaaya kalpate |”
(Brahmavidya Upanishad 12-13)*

*“And just as the sound of a metal utensil – or of a gong dies in silence –
so he, who seeks the All lets the OM sound fade away in silence. For that
wherein the sound fades away is the Brahman, the higher. Yea, the whole
sound is Brahman and conduces to immortality”.*Best Regards,


Shashwata Chowdhury

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> This long dragged discussion demands a final verdict.
> >  final verdict!! from which side you are expecting this final verdict??
> Whether  from jagat mithyAvAdins or Atmaikatva/sarvAtmakatva vAdins??  And
> again, even if you chose one from these two parties, other party (other
> than what you chose) would always be eager to prove the verdict from the
> opposite party is subject to further appeal in the next court of law :-)
> Hence, don’t expect verdict from the discussants, try to reconcile both the
> viewpoints come to a legitimate conclusion / understanding of the topic on
> your own, take it to your guru, get the doubts clarified from him and
> accept the 'final verdict' from him.  Kindly don’t expect a final verdict
> so soon, on these issues especially on this list,  when the hearing is
> still going on :-)
> I have went  through many of the mails. All it seems , is the same point
> being   risen again and again. An infinite loop of word jugglery, sadly
> nothing else.
> >  Sometimes repetition is required to maintain the consistency in the
> presentation of our viewpoints.  For that matter, shankara himself uses
> same shruti vAkya-s again and again at various places to insist certain
> points.  Charvita charvaNa is part of the mananaM in Advaita sAdhana.  If
> this is not satisfies you & if you are tired  of seeing the repetitive
> mails, you always have the 'delete' button in your key board, press it and
> get rid of the trouble of reading monotonous mails, simple is it not?? :-)
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar

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