[Advaita-l] Deprecating foreign scholars is not Hindu tradition

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Do you mean no Upanayana is required for Vedic and Vedanga studies? A lot
of people here will not agree with you.

On Monday 1 August 2016, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:

> What samskAra does Atma have?  Why identify with paricChinna anAtma vastu
> like samskAra or desha / kAla when one should remind oneself to identify
> with consciousness instead?
>
> One can have pride in one's culture, but when that pride looks down on
> someone else is only an obstacle to Atma vidyA. chAndAl'ostu sa tu
> dvijo'stu gururityeShA manIShA mama.
>
> Regards,
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
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> wrote:
>
>> Namaste
>>
>> On Saturday 30 July 2016, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <dvnsarma at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dvnsarma at gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Since Hindu Astronomy at that time was not upto the mark our astronomers
>> > borrowed from Yavanas. Nothing becomes automatically right just because
>> it
>> > is
>> > propounded by a Hindu.
>> >
>> > Usually a latter commentator contradicts a former commentator's point of
>> > view.
>> > It is unreasonable to say that the latter commentator has no right to
>> > contradict the former.
>> >
>> >
>> But you are missing the point. A Mleccha will not have any Samskara like
>> Upanayana. He will not learn Sastra traditionally from Guru but may be
>> from
>> University Professor wearing pants and shoes. How can such a pant shirt
>> shoe wearing Guru without Samskaras give proper instruction? He will give
>> bookish knowledge only.
>>
>> A man  wanted to learn making Masala Dosa from a book. In the book it was
>> written 'heat the Dosa pan and apply ghee on the hot pan'. He applied ghee
>> with hands on the hot pan and got burnt badly. This will happen if you
>> are learning from books.
>>
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Sarma.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
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>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Namaste
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday 30 July 2016, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <
>> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
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>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
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>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hindu tradition is to give due respect to deserving people
>> irrespective
>> >> of
>> >> > their religion or nationality.
>> >> > This attested and made evident by by Varahamihira in Brihat Samhita
>> >> 2-14.
>> >> >
>> >> > म्लेच्छाहि यवनास्तेषु सम्यक् शास्त्रं प्रतिष्ठितम् ।
>> >> > ऋषिवत्तेऽपि पूज्यन्ते किं पुनर्दैवविद्विजः।।
>> >> >
>> >> > Because of their entrenchment in the Khagola Sastra Yavanas though
>> >> Mlecchas
>> >> > are adored as Rishis. What to say if one is a brahmin
>> >> > astronomer/astrologer.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes they can be respected but this Sloka is not about situation when
>> the
>> >> Mlecchas are writing Sastras contradicting Brahmin Sastras. If a
>> Mleccha
>> >> is
>> >> contradicting Adi Sankara and making wrong comments on Acharyas of
>> >> Parampara in any Sastra he will be not respected by us.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > regards,
>> >> > Sarma.
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>> >> -Venkatesh
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-Venkatesh