[Advaita-l] Deprecating foreign scholars is not Hindu tradition

[Venkatraghavan S]

No, vedic karma requires adhikaritvam, but please do not assume
adhikaritvam with superiority, and do not extend that superiority as
conferring "true" knowledge as opposed to "bookish" knowledge.

Karma and jnAna operate on different levels.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On 2 Aug 2016 3:17 a.m., "Venkatesh Murthy" <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> Do you mean no Upanayana is required for Vedic and Vedanga studies? A lot
> of people here will not agree with you.
>
> On Monday 1 August 2016, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What samskAra does Atma have?  Why identify with paricChinna anAtma vastu
>> like samskAra or desha / kAla when one should remind oneself to identify
>> with consciousness instead?
>>
>> One can have pride in one's culture, but when that pride looks down on
>> someone else is only an obstacle to Atma vidyA. chAndAl'ostu sa tu
>> dvijo'stu gururityeShA manIShA mama.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste
>>>
>>> On Saturday 30 July 2016, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <dvnsarma at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Since Hindu Astronomy at that time was not upto the mark our
>>> astronomers
>>> > borrowed from Yavanas. Nothing becomes automatically right just
>>> because it
>>> > is
>>> > propounded by a Hindu.
>>> >
>>> > Usually a latter commentator contradicts a former commentator's point
>>> of
>>> > view.
>>> > It is unreasonable to say that the latter commentator has no right to
>>> > contradict the former.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> But you are missing the point. A Mleccha will not have any Samskara like
>>> Upanayana. He will not learn Sastra traditionally from Guru but may be
>>> from
>>> University Professor wearing pants and shoes. How can such a pant shirt
>>> shoe wearing Guru without Samskaras give proper instruction? He will give
>>> bookish knowledge only.
>>>
>>> A man  wanted to learn making Masala Dosa from a book. In the book it was
>>> written 'heat the Dosa pan and apply ghee on the hot pan'. He applied
>>> ghee
>>> with hands on the hot pan and got burnt badly. This will happen if you
>>> are learning from books.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > regards,
>>> > Sarma.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org');>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Namaste
>>> >>
>>> >> On Saturday 30 July 2016, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <
>>> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>>> ');>>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hindu tradition is to give due respect to deserving people
>>> irrespective
>>> >> of
>>> >> > their religion or nationality.
>>> >> > This attested and made evident by by Varahamihira in Brihat Samhita
>>> >> 2-14.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > म्लेच्छाहि यवनास्तेषु सम्यक् शास्त्रं प्रतिष्ठितम् ।
>>> >> > ऋषिवत्तेऽपि पूज्यन्ते किं पुनर्दैवविद्विजः।।
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Because of their entrenchment in the Khagola Sastra Yavanas though
>>> >> Mlecchas
>>> >> > are adored as Rishis. What to say if one is a brahmin
>>> >> > astronomer/astrologer.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes they can be respected but this Sloka is not about situation when
>>> the
>>> >> Mlecchas are writing Sastras contradicting Brahmin Sastras. If a
>>> Mleccha
>>> >> is
>>> >> contradicting Adi Sankara and making wrong comments on Acharyas of
>>> >> Parampara in any Sastra he will be not respected by us.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > regards,
>>> >> > Sarma.
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>>> >> --
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> -Venkatesh
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> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
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