[Advaita-l] Shankara authenticates Shiva as the son of Brahma

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Sat Aug 13 13:31:29 CDT 2016

This is getting a little ridiculous.

You still have not provided any substantive response to the Kena bhAshya
quote - apart from dismissing it as speculation, and now you are saying
that we are wrong in dismissing something which is clearly arthavAda?

Whatever may be your agenda, I want to play no further role in it and
recuse myself from this discussion.


On 13 Aug 2016 3:08 p.m., "D Gayatri" <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure we should brush aside everything that we find to be
> inconvenient as arthavAda. For the mImAmsaka, the entire brahma jignAsa
> portion is arthavAda!
> I am not aware of Sri Shankara calling himself a sinner anywhere in his
> bhAshyas. For the third point, please see my other response.
> Regards
> Gayatri
> On Saturday, 13 August 2016, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Firstly it is arthavAda, not to be taken literally.
>> Secondly, you have several similar instances in slokas composed by
>> mahAtmAs, some by Shankaracharya himself, where for the benefit of ajnani
>> devotees, he says that I am a sinner, ajnAni, please help me Lord. It
>> doesn't mean Shankaracharya is an ajnAni or a sinner, it is said on behalf
>> of such devotees.
>> Thirdly, as I have said Rudra is an amshA. When Sri Rama was lamenting
>> over the loss of Sita one cannot say that the sarvajna Narayana is
>> lamenting, and for that lament to be cited as a reason to deny Narayana's
>> Ishvaratvam.
>> Regards,
>> Venkatraghavan
>> On 13 Aug 2016 1:02 p.m., "D Gayatri" <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alright, you have a point. So I will explain why you can't compare birth
>>> of Rudra from Prajapati to that of Ishwara taking an incarnation. This is
>>> because, the baby Rudra, in the satapatha brahmana episode, cries that he
>>> is not free from sins. Certainly, this is not the mark of Ishwara, since
>>> Ishwara is always free from sins.
>>> Regards
>>> Gayatri

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