[Advaita-l] [advaitin] 'Iśwara is Māyāvin'

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Chandramouliji - PraNAms

I have referenced Panchadashi 8th Chapter -sloka 60 - where Vidyaranya states his statement is based on shruti -from the notes I have he refers to NRisimha Uttara Tapaneeya Upanishad - sloka 9. I have not seen the Upanishad.

To answer your question - yes maaya is inert - the topic of the chapter is Kuutastha chaitanyam of Saakshi chaitanyam and how to differentiate it from chidaabaasa. He also providing arguments supporting the superiority for abhaasa vaada against avachcheda vaada in this chapter. Yes in the presence of KuuTasta chaitanya by reflection the vyaShTi buddhi becomes conscious entity forming jeeva and samashTi becomes Iswara again by reflection. The formation of reflection is figuratively called pravasham and also creation of Jiiva-hood and Iswara-hood. In the samaShTi, all the rajo and samo gunas fall out leaving pure satva guna of maaya for reflection - Since satva guna stands for knowledge - Iswara becomes sarvajnaH. These aspects were also discussed in the 7th chapter - tRipti deepa prakaraNa - where Vidhyaranaya provides close to 300 verses commenting on Bri. Up 4-4-12 mantra - that says one has to inquire into the aatma or the self - aatmaichet vihaneeyaat aham asmeeti puurushaH....;etc.

I was just posing the question since maaya and creation are beginning less cycle, the anyonya aashraya is accounted by anirvacaneeya khyaati. 

Hope this helps.

Hari Om!
Sada 


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On Thu, 2/11/16, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] 'Iśwara is Māyāvin'
 To: "kuntimaddi sadananda" <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Date: Thursday, February 11, 2016, 4:28 AM
 
 Sri Sadananda Ji,  
 
  
 
 Pranams.  
 
  
 
 Reg  << Based on
 the
 authority of Shruti it is clearly established that both
 jeeva and Iswara are
 products of maayaa
 >>,  
 
  
 
 माया  is  जडम् (inert). It cannot produce anything by itself.
 So who is the Producer of Iswara??  Can
 you please cite some of the Shruti Vakyams on which your
 conclusion is based. 
 
  
 
 As per my understanding,
 with the manifestation of  माया Chaitanyam
 itself with माया as its उपाधि is considered as Iswara . There is no
 “product” of माया called
 Iswara.
 
 
 Regards
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at
 3:58 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 
 
 Subbuji – PraNAms
 
 
 
 In the 8th Chapter of Panchadashi – kuuTastha deepa
 prakaraNa – that we just completed for Advaita Academy
 (yu-tube talks will soon become available) Shree Vidyaranya
 says – sloka 60 – that Iswara like jiiva is maayikou
 (are products of maaya). Maayaavin and maayikou leads to
 anyonya aashraya dosha- error of  interdependence.
 
 
 
 maayaabhaasena jeeveshou karoteeti shrutatvataH|
 
 maayikaaveva jeeveshou svachchou tou kaarakumbhavat||
 
 
 
 Based on the authority of Shruti it is clearly established
 that both jeeva and Iswara are products of maayaa – one is
 reflection in impure maayaa and the other the reflection on
 pure satva guna pradhaana maayaa.
 
 
 
 Hari Om!
 
 Sada
 
 
 
 
 
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