[Advaita-l] Why was the illusory universe generated at the first place?

Aurobind Padiyath aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com
Wed Mar 23 02:51:14 CDT 2016


Your own ignorance about your true nature is what makes your feel limited.
Similar to dream where you feel you as various entities inside your dream,
all your own creation, but identifies with the dreamer, similarly in waking
state. You are neither.
Only when you are given the knowledge of your real nature, these
misunderstanding will get eradicated and once you gain that then you won't
feel miserable. Just as you are no more worried about your dreams. But you
continue to see it. Same way knowing the real swaroopa of you will remove
your identification with the concept of the individual self. But this world
will not vanish, only it will be seen in the new light of knowledge. Seeing
the water of mirage will entice you only till the truth is unknown.
 This is the Moksha what Advaita guarantee.
(I'm purposely not using jargon as I find many get stuck up on them and
miss the purports of the teachings)

Aurobind

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Why do I posses such limitation? Why should I make that mistake? I the
> subject, the consciousness, why have I merged my inner conscious being with
> the objects? Why do I mistakenly take myself as an object? From where do
> this limitation and ignorance rise from? If I am that conscious existence
> why am I trapped in my own objective experiences?
>
> Shashwata Chowdhury
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no absence of light in reality. Only the limitation of your eyes
>> to see is called the absence. Mistaking the light of Sun under conditions
>> is in reality the wateryness. Same way when you see things as names and
>> forms not as Sat Chit Ananda that includes you too, that is called Avidya
>> or Maya. Not perceived in it's reality creates the names and forms.
>> Can you experience any thing if it is not existing (Sat), Awareness
>> (Chit) and niratishaya anubhuti (Ananda)? Everything is only experienced as
>> knowledge and only if it is existing. That experiencing if it is confused
>> with the names and forms it is called Jagat otherwise in it's reality it is
>> only Brahman.
>> Aurobind
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:36 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My question still remains- why the absence of light? And why the mirage
>>> in first place? As desert and sun is the source of the mirage same way
>>> Brahman is the source of the illusion. I think I should ask this - Why
>>> should I experience the absence of light in the first place?!
>>>
>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your statement
>>>> "It (darkness) can be experienced hence it is sat and at the same time
>>>> these particular experiences can be nullified (in the presence of light),
>>>> therefore, it is asat.
>>>>
>>>> Brahman is cit (consciousness) Maya is Avidya or (Avastu).
>>>> Object(appearance) is very different from the subject but there is no
>>>> object without the subject (This assumption is wrong as in a mirage). But
>>>> where did this object (the water in a mirage or darkness in the absence of
>>>> light) came from? "
>>>>
>>>> Aurobind
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:03 Shashwata Shastri, <
>>>> shashwata.unimas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Where did this Vastu came from? If it is Vastu what is it doing inside
>>>>> of Brahman? Surely it is not an independent entity?! Questions related to
>>>>> Maya always puzzles me. I know without Brahman it is non existent. Maya is
>>>>> mithya and mithya is by default sat and asat. It can be experienced hence
>>>>> it is sat and at the same time these particular experiences can be
>>>>> nullified, therefore, it is asat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brahman is cit (consciousness) Maya is Avidya or vastu. Object is very
>>>>> different from the subject but there is no object without the subject. But
>>>>> where did this object came from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pranams
>>>>>> The first error that needs correction is that Maya is a vastu. The
>>>>>> rest of the questions will be nonexistent if you understand this.
>>>>>> It is compared to darkness to light as an example.
>>>>>> Now look at your questions in this scenario. You will get all answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aurobind
>>>>>> On 23 Mar 2016 03:48, "Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l" <
>>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is this Maya? Where does it come from? Why was Avidya there at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first place? Brahman is the one and absolute. My question is, why
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> spark of imperfection in the perfect? Without Brahman there can be no
>>>>>>> existence of Maya itself. But what is the relation between Maya and
>>>>>>> Brahman? It is not like the Brahman, it is not even same as Brahman,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> can not exist without Brahman, it is not something which can be
>>>>>>> identified
>>>>>>> as the opposite of Brahman either. But we need to admit that it did
>>>>>>> generate from Brahman. If it is from Brahman then why it was there
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> first place (Again same question)? Why depended existence of
>>>>>>> ignorance in
>>>>>>> absolute and pure Brahman?
>>>>>>>
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