[Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada

Sujal Upadhyay sujal.u at gmail.com
Tue May 10 03:42:20 CDT 2016

praNAms Bhaskar Prabhu ji,

I understand. I did not went through 200 posts :) Our imagination is based
on our past knowledge, likes and dislikes, as I have said, we superimpose
'value' to Gold. So our shrishti is the superimposition on Ishvara's
shrishti. But the world we see is 'our world' and not reality. Again, what
matters is where our consciousness is. If it is in dream state, then the
waking world is non-existent for me. In the same way, in nirvikapl samAdhi,
since nothing is perceived (seen, experienced) by mind via sense organs,
there is no world, no creation, nothing.

While dreaming, mind creates the whole scene (samsAra), different
personalities, different situations, then the drama goes on and when mind
is saturated or desires are extinguished, the mental world is pulled back
within mind. So there is creation, preservation and destruction. Though
there are many characters in dream, all are played by one.

btw, not all dreams are pleasant :) some are scary, so we are not in
control of what we create. It all depends upon our dis-satisfied desires.

Hare Krishna

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> It seems that the word ‘samsāra’ means ‘jīva-sṛṣṭi’ or ‘mano-sṛṣṭi’, while
> vishva or jagat means the world created by Īshvara.
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> The above is what I tried to convey to this list in the jagan mithyatva
> discussion.  In short, woman, kids, giri, nadi sakala nAma rUpa in this
> jagat is Ishwara srushti for which brahman is the both upAdAna and nimitta
> whereas  my wife, my son, my house, my BMI etc. are jeeva mAnasa parichinna
> pratyaya which is due to avidyA.  Jeeva cannot create (imagine) the jagat
> on its own, it is Ishwara (hiraNyagarbha) who creates this jagat for the
> jeeva for their karma bhOga (shankara explicitly says this in sUtra
> bhAshya).  If everything is mere imagination of me, the eka jeeva, I would
> have imagined 'my world' in a better way to make it as a comfortable place
> to stay longer :-)
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar

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