[Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada

sreenivasa murthy narayana145 at yahoo.co.in
Tue May 10 11:04:01 CDT 2016

>From : H.N.Sreenivasa MurthyPranams to all.
          Is it not a joke and  that so many jivas arguing about ekajivavada or nanajivavada? 
              This also  Divine Lila.sarvaM hi nAnAtvam brahmaNi kalpitamEva ||                      [Sri Shankara]

With warm and respectful regards,  A Jiva one amongst other Jivas

      From: Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 To: Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2016 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada
Namaste Anandji,

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Anand Hudli via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> One more astounding thing about DSV/eka-jIva-vAda, as
> elucidated brilliantly by PrakAshAnanda, is that he reduced the sattA
> traividhya of pAramArthika, vyAvahArika, and prAtibhAsika sattA to only two
> pAramArthika and prAtibhAsika!

Thanks, this is precisely what I was thinking! Moreover, prAtibhAsika is
not completely freewill-based as people seem to think. I don't have the
choice to dream exactly what I want to dream, similar to SDV where Ishvara
doesn't create the world as per his whims and fancies. So I would think
that the question as to why I created the world this way is as irrelevant
in DSV, inasmuch as it is in SDV as to why Ishvara created the world so. It
just is so and it doesn't affect my mukti.

> There is no vyAvahArika sattA at all! Since
> the objects of the waking state are not any more real  than those of the
> dream state, why bother to call them vyAvahArika satya? They are
> prAtibhAsika satya too, not any better than dream objects. More on this
> later.

Unfortunately we hold on to prakriyAs/vAdas and reject others based on the
one we understand, as if they are the ultimate truth and lose focus of
their purpose. Even in SDV, finally we have to say that not only jIva, but
Ishvara, Shruti, bhashya, all are mithyA. Who imagined is a moot point
then. I remember what Pujya Swami Dayanandaji says in the context of aikya.
For some reason, people find it comparatively easy to say "I am brahman",
because they think that brahman is consciousness, so its not really a big
deal. However, when it comes to saying "I am Ishvara", people hesitate, are
even scared! IMHO, this verisame thing is seen while assessing DSV.

BTW, as you said siddhAntapradIpikA doesn't seem to be available, even on

--Praveen R. Bhat
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