[Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Sri Chandramouli ji,
I am in agreement with Sri Anand ji's response to your email below.

adhyAropa is not needed if the mind doesn't seek answers for the world.
apavAda is sufficient in those cases.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

Namaste all.

The Sidhanta is that Realization is possible ONLY through mahAvAkya
upadEsha by the Guru. From what I can gather from the responses, we seem to
be concluding that such an upadEsha is not needed after all. Anyway each of
us have our own understandings. But frankly I am surprised at the
responses. Ofcourse I would be very grateful for a response from Sri Anand
Ji as well before concluding.

Regards

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

>

> My understanding is that in the final teaching, there is nothing else
apart from aham - everything else is negated by neti neti.
>
> That being the case, if one has sufficient viveka to separate the drik
from the drishyA and sufficient vairAgya to dismiss the drishyA, there is
no need to first know a tat padArtha and then do a bhAga tyAga of that that
tat and aham to realise the aikya of the one chaitanya.
>
> Such a one can simply start off with neti neti, and end at the tvam /
aham lakshyArtha which is svatah siddhah.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On 22 May 2016 1:42 p.m., "H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

>>

>> Sri Praveen Ji,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Namaste.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg  << Apologies if I'm talking out of turn, but here's my understanding
>> >>,
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem. Anyone can answer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg  << Not the tat, but the tvam-pada. >>,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Regret my mistake. Very bad slip.
>>
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>>
>> Reg  << When tat tvam asi is told by the teacher to the disciple, the
>> latter understands it as aham tat (jagatkAraNaM)/ brahma asmi. >>,
>>
>>
>>
>> The mahAvAkya upadesha is after the shishya has understood the meanings
of
>> the three words tat, tvam and asi. So where is the shortcut?  It is
>> mentioned in Sri Anand Ji’s citation that there is no need to understand
>> the “tat” pada.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
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