[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Ishvara-authored Srishti avidyākrta - Says Shankara

Sujal Upadhyay sujal.u at gmail.com
Tue May 24 07:13:49 CDT 2016


I have limited knowledge on this subject. From what I have heard, Buddhist
version of asatkArya vAda says that cause transforms into effect and itself
cease to exist. An example is milk transforming into curd. After Milk has
transformed into curd, milk itself cease to exist. However, another opinion
of asatkAryavAda is that it effect is not present in cause, whereas in
satkAryavAda, effect has to be pre-existent in cause, else how would cause
be able to create anything. For example, only milk can transform into curd
as per satkAryavAda, whereas according to asatkAryavAda, curd can be formed
from water or oil. mAyA has three guNa-s, hence everything it creates also
has 3 guNa-s in different permutations and combinations. There is no 4th
guNa inside mAyA.

asatkArya vAda of vaiSeShika says that says that cause does not cease to
exist after transforming into effect. So Buddhist theory of believing in
demi-gods but not in supreme creator might get an explanation from
asatkArya vAda. the SUNya vAda also gets support from asatkArya vAda.

However if we take transformation as real, then Brahman will get divided,
which is not acceptable. 1/4 part of Brahman will become void, SUNya.

Maybe I am wrong, as said earlier, I dont have much knowledge on this



On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Dear Subbuji,
> During Adi Shankara's time there were the Buddhist schools as well as the
> Jaina schools, whose the belief has been that there is no personal God (or
> no separate God) who created the world, in the sense that if there is a
> creator God, where did He get material for creation. This is, in essence,
> also the indirect implication of the Advaita that in the ultimate sense,
> there is no difference between the creator and  the creation and there is
> only the Brahman and no separate creation. Even when the Upanshads talk
> about creation, we can see that the Mundaka upanishad  tells us that the
> Brahman creates in a  way a spider creates the web and takes back the web
> unto itself (i.e., withdraws the web back into itself). This analogy is
> very apt,  as I remember reading years ago an article in the "Reader's
> Digest", mentioning  that there is indeed a kind of spider, which withdraws
> the web into itself back. Thus no upanishad, whether  Mudgala or
> Brihadaranyaka  or any other upanishad,  contradicts what the Mundaka says.
> The Original Bhagavad Gita and the karika of Gaudapadacharya on Mandukya,
> too are saying the same in the Ajativada verse.
> Regards,
> Sunil K.B.

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